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Session #10 - December 5, 1982 Gloria’s Circle
Present: Owen and Maxine Cramer, LaMar Bell, Richard and Mary White, Myra Perala, Ida Nevala, Clista Brooks
S/T: Good evening. Blessings to all of you. How are you this evening? (Various responses) We thank you for your earnest regards. It would seem that there are questions to be discussed before we proceed to the homily. We are aware of your studies in between our personal sessions, and we are most gratified that the time and energy spent is not for naught... Do you have questions to be presented at this time?
Myra: When we met last week, Silverthistle, quite a few questions came out of our discussion. One of the first was “What is the difference between personality and soul? Are they the same thing? When we pass through the veil do we take the same personality with us?
S/T: The personality is a product of the ego in order for the ego to fulfill its mission. The soul is the parent of the ego. The personality stems from the soul but not in direct ways.
Myra: So when we come back to this realm after we are there for a while, how much influence does the personality of the previous incarnation have on this one?
S/T: It has everything to do with the following one because the ego has a certain obligation, a mission, to fulfill. The ego, as you know it, identifies you in this small life span in which the ego carries a particular label, but it is not the ego of which we speak. It is in the way of a too small concept on your part when you speak of your ego. When we tell you of the ego produced by parent soul, we are talking of an ongoing beingness which will endure throughout a number of life experiences and also affect lives in other realities besides this one. What you call ego is your personality, and for some time following the transition that personality does continue to exist even to carrying the same name or label. But the ego which we speak of as being born of the soul will persist through any number of reincarnations until the entire mission is completed.
Richard: Each time with a different personality with the same ego. (Other comments among the group).
S/T:There is always that essential being or ego which is at the center of the lifetime and is conducting the lifetime and putting them (the lifetimes) together in such a way that the soul experiences growth of self knowledge.
Richard: And at the same time that soul has other egos that are involved in other experiences.
S/T: Yes. Some experiences in this realm in which you are now focused and also (some experiences) in other realities which you will be experiencing at some other place and time insofar as your consciousness is concerned.
LaMar: This is gestalt. I have heard of this for many years and never understood it until Silverthistle explained that we can be, and are, more than one person. (Congratulatory comments from Silverthistle as to group’s understanding and LaMar’s explanation.) I hope you will have some more assignments for us. I was just telling the group, as you probably heard before the meeting started, that I am now having the deepest and best meditations that I have had for many years, and the assignment that you gave us was where I got back on the track and started to have really deep meditations. I thank you very much. Myra: We had another question, Silverthistle. To what extent do you visualize our questions? Owen: Are you aware of the questions in our minds before we ask them, and are you aware of our presence and our names and such as that before we express them?
S/T: As has been given before, yes, I am telepathic, but again, to reinforce what was given before, you have privacy. Even I cannot invade your mind unless you invite me in. You invite me in inasmuch as you joined this circle, and questions are voiced, but even then I do not attempt to pass the barrier of privacy.
Owen: We were talking earlier of the matter of introducing ourselves, and we thought if you were aware of who we each are that this might be unnecessary. Would it be desirable if we did introduce ourselves, the people in the group, each time?
S/T: Stating your names each time we meet adds your personal power to the energy structure which is being built by our mutual participation. It is not redundant, but most desirable. (The group proceeds to introduce themselves by stating their names aloud. Everyone showed enjoyment when Silverthistle added his name to the group.)
Richard: I have a question about the assignment that you gave us some weeks ago regarding the staircase. I have been having trouble trying to use that concept in my meditation. The staircase I always receive is a narrow one consisting of sixty thin steps up to a small platform maybe three feet square, and then steps down the other side. There is nothing visible around me while I am on the stairway, nothing but a void. The stairs coming down are not necessarily the same number, but approximately so. It’s an un- nerving experience for me because I’m not sure that I’m not going to make a mistake and step off the side. The stairs are never very broad. They’re very narrow and shallow. I don’t know quite what to make of it, and I never have a good feeling. I never have any feeling aside from being on those steps, and I’m glad to get off. Do you have any comments?
S/T: This experience is indicative of the life span in which you now find yourself focused. The fact that the stairs are narrow and shallow indicates a certain degree of narrowness and shallowness in the imaginative faculty. You require things to be laid out very clearly. You are of a technical turn of mind and prefer to deal in facts. When you are put into a position where you are not dealing in what you call hard facts, you become uncertain. That feeling you experience of a bottomless area is that fear you hold within yourself of being lost in an imaginative realm. In another life experience you were an artist and became so enraptured in the imaginative world that you are now tied to this world of phenomena, and thus you feel safer with hard, cold facts. This life then needs to have the extension of the imaginative faculty, or a meeting between these two realms. If it is not possible for you to achieve this in this life span, you may choose to do so in another, but the fact that you are trying to meditate, that you are indeed a part of this circle is demonstrative of your struggle towards finding that union of these two sides of your nature. Do pursue the staircase idea attempting to make the staircase firmer, more hospitable. Work on expanding that narrow landing into a wider, broader vista in which you can feel comfortable. When you have done this then work on building a staircase which you may descend with certainty that there is a place for you to reach, that the stairs do not simply descend into nothingness. When you have succeeded in building this imaginative staircase or stile, you will become aware of some of the events and experiences of the other lives which have caused you to be so fearful in this life.
Ida: I have a question. I haven’t been able to get a staircase, and when I try to meditate I just dose off because I want to climb up the green hillside. Is it just a dream, or is it I just don’t know how to go about it?
S/T: The fact that you picture a green hillside in itself has a message for you. The fact that you cannot imagine the staircase also has a message for you. The latter message is that you have not sufficiently disciplined your imaginative faculty but have depended upon external pressures and stimuli to provide this experience for you in this life. Climbing the green mountain is indicative of this life struggle with physical limitations which you have endeavored to overcome -- the expression of an indomitable will that will not permit the physical to sway and hold you back. Does that help you to understand?
Ida: Well, I’m not sure. The last time I went climbing that mountain hillside my voice told me “Why do you do that – always try to climb?”
S/T: That is exactly what I say to you.
Myra: Silverthistle could I ask about my experience? It was like a scene. It was like I was inside of a – it was like stone. It was like an ancient castle perhaps, and the steps went up to what looked like a parapet. There were sixteen steps up and there I found the stairway down, but I couldn’t seem to count those. I got down easily. Then I looked out and it was like a meadow. It was just beautiful. It was rippling with grass, and it was like I had come up out of something into something rather beautiful.
S/T: The message here lies in the sixteen steps of stone within stone walls. The stones represent the material world in which you are now focused. Sixteen is the mystical seven, showing that you have in this lifetime the capacity to transcend above the material world and to develop those natural characteristics which you will enjoy in another life. The fact that you come down the stairs into the meadow is again a clear indication of escapement from this physical realm by virtue of the thoughts you entertain and the actions you take as a result of those thoughts while you are still focused into this material realm. Did you ask yourself at the top of the stairs what it was you most wanted to do at that moment? (Myra says she did but can’t remember the answer. It was more important to get down.) I suggest that you continue this exercise until you can comfortably remember the answer. But do not be discouraged for you are doing very well.
Owen: I had some difficulty in visualizing stairs that I could get hold of. The stairs seemed to be very tall and very steep, and I could visualize the stairs, but I couldn’t visualize myself climbing up. This was a real climb, but finally I had this one meditation where I did get some picture. It was a path in a park in the autumn. There were hard wood trees and the autumn colors. I found a stairway off to the right of the path. They were white wooden stairs. I went up about eight stairs to a small platform, and then off a little bit to the right farther, another sixteen steps to a larger platform area – kind of a gazebo type platform with a cover on it, open all around in the tree top area. I walked around that for a while and found another narrow flight of seventeen steps to a smaller enclosure, still in the treetops, and I did at that point ask what I wanted to do. The thought was that I most wanted to help others. From there I looked for descending stairs but saw a narrow bridge leading horizontally away to a lovely sunlit garden in the distance. The stair numbers I was a little bit unsure of so those are a little bit approximate.
S/T: Very well. That story tells you that as you walk the pathway through the park there is a side to your nature that is in tune with the nature of the world in which you dwell. The first eight stairs indicate power. Thus as you attune yourself to the natural world around, you obtain a degree of power which enables you to go on still higher. The sixteen stairs become the mystical seven, so this again tells you that the power you develop through attunement with your natural world leads you to a mystical realm in which you find a certain degree of self-understanding, as you walk around the small enclosure out of which you can view other realities. The gazebo would be representative of the meditative state. Through meditation you have many avenues to explore, much to see from that height. The bridge is representative of transition, and you reach the bridge from the gazebo via eight steps – again, power. You come into a sunlit area – a state of enlightenment. In another life you were a member of the priesthood, and you, at that time, enjoyed the knowledge of the mysteries which you are now studying. These studies for you should sponsor fond memories -- memories that come through from this life as a priest. But you have much power at your command to control the nature of your environment. As you attune yourself to the naturalness of your environment, you will become dominant over it, and through the mystery of your material world you go on to self-mastery, which then enables you to cross the bridge into another realm of understanding. Thus you will not need to return to this particular realm unless you so choose.
Myra: I had another meditation with the staircase which was really fascinating to me. I was searching for the staircase, and I came to a concrete wall. The stairs were on the outside of the wall. I went up eight steps to a platform. Then I turned and went back the way I came up eight more. Ultimately I climbed thirty six steps, and I didn’t get tired at all as I climbed. When I got to the top of the stairs that were on a concrete wall all the way up, I was at the top and looked out over a great vista of a very high island. I was at Masada in Israel a few years ago, and this looked like the Masada. When I got to the top I said, “What shall I do here,” and very clearly the message, “Listen and learn.” So I poked around in all the nooks and crannies that were there as I remembered them – the Masada. It was amazing to me that I was there. I listened and listened for a long time, but I don’t know what I learned because it didn’t seem like any message came to me. Then I decided it was time for me to come back. I looked for a place to come down. I found a tunnel, and I went into the tunnel. It was about eight feet around, and it sloped down. I had been wanting to run for a long time, but I had hurt my knee., and I had not been able to run, but I just got a big exhilaration out of running through this tunnel. I came down without any steps at all – just the sloping tunnel, all the way back down to the bottom.
S/T: Throughout your experience the number eight continues to appear which is the number of power and domination over the material realm. Again, the stone represents the material realm and the zig-zagging back and forth represent the turns which your life has taken. You will recall when your life has taken a turn, it has been a radical (turn) or 180 degree turn. The fact that you could descend joyously running through the tunnel shows that you can handle the tunnel vision of this material realm. As you approach the end of your life, you will be listening and learning and poking around in the nooks and crannies of your mind, searching out those experiences which will enable you to make the transition with ease and in full consciousness.
Maxine: I had another stair climbing. I did it for several days and it always had the very same set of stairs. This time it was like a Maxfield Parrish setting where I went up 25 steps to the courts where I could look out over the land below -- all this beautiful green grass with flowers growing in beautiful gardens. I did ask myself a question, but I don’t recall what that question was. I do recall that I didn’t want to leave there. I didn’t want to come down those steps. I was just happy to be there, to look over this beautiful green lawn and the lovely flowers. But I did come down the steps, the same 25 that I had climbed.
S/T: Very good. The 25 reduces to the mystical 7. If you will listen to the recounting of experiences among this group you will find the mystical seven appearing and reappearing which gives you some concept of why you are together. Your staircase of 25 steps represents your ability to enter the mystical realm although encased in a physical body. It demonstrates to you the heights of splendor you can reach through meditation, but warns you of the reluctance you will feel to return to this physical realm when you would prefer to stay in the heights and enjoy the view, but that must not dismay you nor discourage you from trying to develop your powers of concentration and meditation. That is one of the main reasons that you are part of this group. Do persist. You do well.
LaMar: Silverthistle, I have a question. I don’t know if you want to take it now. It concerns the meditation that I have and have had for many years. The deepest meditations that I get seem to always follow this same pattern. It does not involve the staircase, however, although that was a beautiful meditation. But when I experience my very deepest meditations, I almost always feel myself going down, and then just, I don’t know if it is my consciousness or just what it is, just spreading out into a magnificent beautiful large area. It seems like I am always part way up on a hillside with timber above me and a beautiful meadow below. I’m going down across this meadow, and at the foot of that meadow is a log house at the edge of the timber. That is pretty much it. As I say, for years when I go into a really super meditation, it almost always follows this same pattern. I have wondered many times why.
S/T: You are going back to that point of consciousness just prior to entry into this life span. The timber above you is this realm manifestation or objectification of the ego’s aspiration to obtain the lofty height or reach back to the parent soul. The meadow below you represents the beauty and peace which you have to enjoy in that in-between-time. The cabin represents that life which you are now in as you sat on the hillside and contemplated the limitations and restrictions that you were about to adopt. They appear in this realm of understanding as a log cabin. I do believe that if you will consider these words in your next meditation, you will develop further information without my giving it to you.
Clista: Silverthistle, I’d like to tell you my staircase. It is a marble, curving one. It goes up for twenty steps. Then there’s a platform and big ornate doors, like church doors. Then it goes up twenty more. Then there’s a platform with more doors, and it goes up each time like that around four doors. Then it quits. Twenty times each time, and then I can’t go back down those same stairs. The only way down is down a brass pole that you slide down, like a fireman’s pole.
S/T: The marble stairs represent the beauty of this material world and the seeming permanence of it. The fact that your staircases all contain twenty steps refers back to the original duality of the consciousness which you now wear and the need for you to see yourself reflected in your environment so that you begin to understand how you create that environment out of your own consciousness. The multiple doors are representative of growth in consciousness throughout this lifetime. As you come to understand certain things in this life, you pass through a set of doors, and then enter another staircase, again indicative of the need to see your own reflection. One of your problems in this lifetime stems from another life in which you were wealthy and pampered without duties or obligations or responsibility in which you were extremely spoiled and self-loving. In this lifetime you have adopted circumstances which have prevented you from developing sufficient self-esteem, and this meditation is trying to turn you to that recognition of the specialness of your individuality and of your importance in the scheme of things. When you have developed more self-esteem, more self-confidence, you will not have any trouble dealing with the material world. You will have the dominance over the material world indicated by the sliding down the pole. the brass pole representative of those things in the material world which one tends to worship without intending to make false gods. They will simply be a means of egress for you, rather than something that has control over you. Does that help you to understand?
Myra: Eileen had a question last Saturday night, Silverthistle, that she was thinking about next time when you said that on December 18 we will have time for individual questions. She was wondering if you could foretell the future.
S/T: To a certain degree. I have the privilege of an overview which is not given to you in the physical body. I prefer not to say more at this time. I do believe in the interest of time we must proceed with tonight’s presentation. “Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness sake for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when men shall revile you and persecute you and say all manner of evil against you falsely for my sake. Rejoice and be exceeding glad, for great is your reward in heaven. For so persecuted they the prophets which were before you”. And thus we have the last beatitude. Now this last beatitude is greatly misunderstood. It is not a law that you be martyred for believing in Jesus Christ. Rather, this is to tell you that anyone who does not conform to mass thinking is going to be ostracized. Thus you become a particularly special individual when you operate under the laws of the other beatitudes and when you conduct your life according to these laws, others cannot avoid seeing that specialness about you. Thus they become fearful of you and in order to protect themselves say evil falsely against you, revile you, persecute you. Many times this simply takes the form of negative thoughts, but can take the form of overt violence, as in the case of crime. But inasmuch as observation and cooperation with the laws of the beatitudes enables you to have self-mastery and dominance over your material world, you do indeed have the great reward. So did the prophets, as you have been told. They were people of special skills, set apart, ostracized because they were feared, protected because they understood the laws of this universe. But you have not self-mastery until you do understand the laws under which you have been given life. And now I recommend to you that you go back over the lessons and study again and again the beatitudes. Master them and you master yourself. And so it is done.
Judith: Let us proceed, my precious ones, with tonight’s lesson, and we will close with the healing. When last I spoke with you we talked about the life – the independence of life, the creation of life, and the creative power of life, and the importance of your understanding this principle. Tonight I wish to give you some new words in order for you to better deal with the things of which we must talk. For the sake of comprehension let us consider the divine dew drop as a nousphere. That is a Greek word, n-o-u, meaning mind. But do expand that to include all nine components. Consider the nousphere as being the realm of things in themselves without self-knowledge. This, then, is the home or the birthplace of noumena. That is those experiences, those realities, not yet objectified, but nevertheless essentially real. Now you dwell in a realm of phenomena, so let us call this realm in which you now exist the realm of phaenosphere, that is that sphere in which objectified reality becomes real to you through the use of your senses and thus you obtain through the phaenosphere self-knowledge. So for our forthcoming discussion then, we will deal with the nousphere, noumena, the phaenosphere and phenomena. As each unit emerges from the nousphere through the process previously given you, that unit carries always within it an area of nousphere and always within it the potentiality of phaenosphere. Now sometimes the potentiality becomes realized, and thus through this process has come the reality which you now consider to be your reality because it is the one in which you are most intensely focused. But always there exists other realities, some still noumenon other than phenomenon. But there are realities of phenomena in which you function unconsciously. Without going into a great deal of technical detail, we will simplify and say that this world of phenomena is comprised of spirit, force, and matter. Now each of these three is comprised of three of the original nine components. This is true of this material reality, not necessarily true of other realities. But the other realities are comprised of the same units as this reality. The objectification of any reality is interpreted through the consciousness and the objectification is a creation of the noumenal world contained within you. It is out of the noumenal world that your ideas come to you. It is through the noumenal world within you that you are given inspiration. It is through the noumenal world within you that you conceptualize the environment in which you wish to live. Now while I speak of this on an individual basis, this exists on a group basis as well. Thus there is a noumenal world within a family, a noumenal world within a government, a noumenal world within a nation or any aggregation of intelligence, or consciousness or beingness that you wish to determine. Thus as individuals you create your immediate environment yourself but overall that is subject to creativity of the noumenal world of the group of which you are a part. Now as you exist in other realities, some of these truths exist in those realities as well. You are never at any time divorced from a reality of some kind. So you come into this reality from another reality in which you have decided that this reality is going to provide for you. Thus you make your choice prior to the creation of the environment. Now your create the environment by creating the body which you wear and by creating the subtle bodies which you wear, by creating the thoughts which you think, which determine the action that you take. Thus the noumenal world always lies within and behind the phenomenal world. Through your sensory system you evaluate the phenomenal world which you yourself created. Through the understanding which you achieve through your sensory system, you are then able to abstract some understanding of the noumenal world out of which you came. This may seem something of a never-ending cycle for indeed that is what it is. You are always and never cease to be. While there are periodicities where you exist in this reality and sometimes are non-existent in this reality, you are never without existence in some reality insofar as you are a product of your parent soul. At such time as you, the ego, produced by the parent soul, have completed the cycle of life planned for you, you will then enter another reality which is not necessarily supervised or governed by an ego. The ego is necessary to function in a phenomenal reality, although the phenomenal reality may not be a material reality. That is to say that the five senses which you now think you enjoy are related directly to this material world in which you believe you have your sole existence. But there are sensory systems in other realities through which you come to know the phenomena in that other reality. You touch these other realities in dreams, meditation and fantasy as has been given before. Thus it does behoove you to indulge yourself in this kind of activity if you are to expand all of the realities in which you have concurrent existence. As you develop the consciousness of all the realities in which you have existence, you forward the ego’s mission and thus eliminate some of the steps, perhaps, in between. So you do have control to a certain degree over whether or not you will come back into another experience of this material realm. As you go through your coming holidays and all of the excitement of friends and families and celebration, try to keep in mind this noumenal world that brings all of these things into phenomenal objectification, and see if your experience of this coming season is not richer than any other season you have enjoyed. With this word then I bid you god speed through the coming weeks and many, many blessings of joy of your coming experiences. And so good night and god bless you.
S/T: And now let us have our healing with these high vibrations which Judith has left with us. That’s right. Stir up the energy. You are high voltage tonight. Call in your loved ones. Now as we proceed you may continue to think of others that you wish to bring in. In keeping with that which Judith has given this evening, visualize the blue leading into the violet spectrum rather than the green. Rub your palms together and see the violet light build. The violet light belongs to the noumenal world. (Group sings Alleluia at Silverthistle’s suggestion) Can you see the violet light. Your singing has taken it further into the purple spectrum. It is most beautiful and most healing. As this very high vibration envelopes your loved ones and envelopes yourself, healing comes into that area of creativity, so that rather than creating illness one creates wholeness. Feel these high vibrations as they spread out and fill this room with a beautiful, very clear deep purple. It is indeed a splendor. Feel your being permeated, saturated, with this very high level energy. Some may feel a tingling at the base of the skull, at the top of the back of the neck. This is the endocrine system response to this high level vibratory healing energy.
LaMar: Is that why my third eye feels like it wants to become wide open?
S/T: That could be. Now begin to share this beautiful energy with all others in your world and on your planet, with deep loving desire, and these vibrations surround your planet to bring healing into the creative faculty of those in responsible positions and to bring healing to all who are in need this night. As you do this a beautiful silvery light rises among you, a blessing to each and every one of you. You have been very powerful this night. Do not forget as you bring your healing effort to a close, to meet your palms and lock the blessing within yourselves that you may go forth and disseminate this goodness to all with whom you come in contact through the coming weeks. Now I give you all my blessing and thank you for sharing your energies and for your high good intentions.
Session closed with singing “Let there be peace on earth.”
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