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Session #11 – December 18, 1982
Gloria’s Circle
Present: Clista Brooks, Ida Nevala, Owen and Maxine Cramer, Bonnie
Wisz, Mary Silveira, Richard and Mary White, Myra Perala,
LaMar Bell.
S/T: Good evening. On this joyous occasion we are pleased to be with you.
Is everyone ready to have a good time this evening.
Let us first have a healing service. That will attune us and make our time
valuable as well. That’s it. Get those blues and greens moving! Now bring in your
loved ones. Think also, this night, of those lost in the plane crashes here. They are
very close to you.
Now tonight I want you to work with a diamond shape. Make it a solid,
geometrical shape but not flat. As you put your palms together and generate the
energy, envision the blue and green light as though it is refracted from the facets of
a diamond-shaped object, as you see the light moving in all different directions. As it
moves into you and through you, you come into attunement with this energy.
LaMar: Should we sing our alleluia tonight?
S/T: Yes, but give the energy a little more time to work. Your visualization
can stand some more work. You do well with the physical energies, but your
attention needs to be more firmly focused into the diamond pattern. Work hard. See
this figure spinning on its axis throwing off rays of healing blue and green. It’s
getting better, stronger. Now let the colors move towards the lavenders and purples.
Then begin your song. (Group sings Alleluia)
Again, please. (Group complies). Thank you all very much. Now in your
imagination visualize this sparkling diamond moving out into the sky so that you see
it as the star in the east that symbolizes the season for you, and peace and good will
go forth throughout the nation bringing healing. And so it is done. Bless you all.
Now remember to bring your palms together locking the healing within your
body. Let us not be dribbling all this goodness around so freely. And so let us
forward with the evening’s joyful program, our gift to you. Who wishes to be first?
LaMar: I will if no one else wants to. I have several questions. First one is on
meditation. I have written this out so I won’t go too far astray. During my staircase
meditation and also during the meditations which I described last week, many times I
have wondered what part of me actually is going down when I feel this wonderful going
down and spreading out on the stairs and on the hillside, etc. I have the feeling that I am
there, but I also have the feeling that I am observing myself on the stairs or sitting on the
hillside.
Judith has said “you live much of your lives in non-reality, in things, in situations
and conditions which are only illusion. They only appear to be what you think they are.
And so you must learn what is true reality and in what you truly exist.” Later she said,
“You contact these non-existences in moments of meditation, daydreaming, etc.” Then
later she said, “There are sensory systems in other realities through which you come to
know the phenomenon in that other reality. You touch these other realities in dreams and
meditation and fantasy. Thus it behooves you to indulge yourself into this kind of
activity, if you are to expand all of the realities in which you have concurrent existence.”
From this I have concluded that in deep meditation, I am actually re-focused into
another realm. Am I actually there, or is a portion of me there, and a portion still here
minding the store, or is it all an illusion.
Someone in the Tuesday night class asked you the question, “If we felt we needed
your presence, could we call on you during the rest of the week?” Your answer was,
“Yes, of course you could do so, and at any time that you are thinking about the things
which are discussed here, you call to you a portion of my attention, my consciousness.
Thus I can become a reality to you at any time.”
When I am there with Doris Condit Stokes, who is on the other side – I have been
told she is my soul mate and have been told that she was actually with me during
meditation when I was in class with Virginia Fidel. When I am there on the hill and Doris
seems to be there with me, I can see the house at the foot of the hill with the Indian girl
standing out in front. She crosses the meadow and is there on the hill with us. Are they
actually there with me or is this an illusion, or is part of their consciousness there and part
somewhere else?
If I can attract your attention and bring you to us as has been said, we can attract
our guides to us. Should it follow that thinking about someone on the other side such as
Doris or your parents, I could attract them to me and they could understand my thoughts
or that I love them very much. Is this an assumption on my part? Is this assumption
correct?
As I have meditated on this scene on the hillside, as you suggested last time, I
always see the house at the bottom, and in front of it is the Indian girl. I believe this girl is
one of my guides who has been with me for a long time. I believe her name is Sanomi or
something closely akin to that. I believe that my meditation on this scene has brought her
in very close to me during this past two weeks as I am aware of this scene almost
constantly and can seem to feel her presence at my left shoulder almost constantly. Is
there anything you could tell me about this?
And my last question: will we see and know our guides when we pass over the
veil?
S/T: Very well, let us go back to the part about non-existences, and I refer
you to Judith’s definition of existence. In the light of that definition then these
experiences which you have during meditation would be periods of non-existence for
a certain portion of you because you are not yet through with this physical realm. Of
course, there is a part of you that is, as you say, “minding the store”.
Now these people with whom you came in contact are very real, and Doris
has chosen for a period of time to remain as the Doris personality. As we have not
yet studied the actual phenomenon of soul mates, I will restrict my comments on
Doris to say at this time that she is a member of your soul family and as is true in all
families, there are some relationships that are more intense and more intimate than
those of some of the other members. So it is with you and Doris. You are very, very
close because your soul genetic codes are very, very similar. Thus you might be said
to be soul mates. But do not mistake that as meaning soul mate in the context of
which it is spoken now by occultists.
As for Naomi, she is also a member of this soul family who has chosen not to
be in fleshly incarnation at this time, but has dedicated her energies to being a very
close and dear spirit friend of yours. During the meditations these people are with
you. They are real at all times, not just when you are in that state of consciousness.
As for the sensation of going down and spreading out, I refer you back to lessons
given by Judith as to the nature of mind in that you have creative mind and
perceiving mind.
In order for you to have this experience in terms which you can deal with
when you reach back to what you call rationality, your perceptions are couched in
the terminology of the physical world – that is to say in the symbols of this and that.
But what you sense as going down is the awareness of the perceiving mind of certain
subtle energies which are doing exactly what you feel they are doing. They are going
down and spreading out so as to form the body of the symbols which you are to
witness during your meditation. Creative mind takes these energies and makes
them, molds them, into the pictures which you need to experience in order to
understand what is happening to you in terms of the earthly world in which you
now live. Does that cover everything?
LaMar: I have wondered if we would actually meet and know our guides at the
time we pass over the veil.
S/T: There is no general answer to that. I would say from what I observe at
this time that both Doris and Naomi will be present to move through the corridor of
transition with you unless some decision is reached to the contrary before that
moment arrives.
To continue with another portion of that question, you also included family
and friends if I recall properly. That is not necessarily the case inasmuch as certain
members may no longer be in that personality nor interested in serving you in that
way. They may be about their own business, or you may not need them nor they
need you at that moment.
Owen: Silverthistle, the Christmas season is a time of great celebration here. Is it
celebrated and how is it celebrated in the spirit-physical?
S/T: We do not celebrate this Christmas as you do for we have different
concepts of holiness and birth of saviors and messiahs. While the Jesus personality
was singular to your earthly experience, it is not singular to our experience. We hold
all life in holiness. Thus no personality has any prior claim to our attitude or caring,
but it serves to focus your attention while in the material on some of the precepts for
which you came into this experience. Therefore it is extremely important to you.
Through your association with those of our little ones in the flesh, we too honor the
king.
But you must surely have a question of more personal intent for yourself.
Would you like to continue?
Owen: Yes. I had wondered what my mother might be doing now. What
identification do you need for her? Her name was Harriet Park Cramer.
S/T: As explained previously, in my condition and orientation, to answer
those kinds of questions takes a little while. If you will, I will put that into the
exchange and perhaps have an answer for you later this evening.
Owen: I appreciate that. Do you need more information on her birth date, or
anything like that?
S/T: No, your presence here and her name should be sufficient. Is there
any other way we can serve you?
Owen: Yes, along a little different line. There have been many psychics that have
predicted great earth changes in the latter part of this century and particularly some of
them have indicated that those changes would be very pronounced in this area. Do you
foresee such changes, and if so, are they of a nature that they would make it important for
people living here to move prior to some specific time?
S/T: Have you not already witnessed these same earth changes during the
past few years. Even now with the weather patterns being as they are, reflecting the
nature of man’s current thought, you are seeing the destruction that the elements
can bring to your planet. It would serve no good purpose for you to move to another
geographical location inasmuch as that which happens with the elements is only a
reflection of the thought patterns of the people occupying the planet. The thought
pattern is going to produce no matter whether you are in the Rockies or the plains
or at the bottom of the ocean. You can change what is happening to your planet by
changing the way that you think. As you change the way you think you influence
others to change the way they think, and this indeed is the very basis for the healing
work that you do. Very well, sir.
Maxine: I have a thought I would like very much to give. I would like to say a
special thank you to Uncle Charles Cramer, who has passed over, for the gift that he left
that has made our lives much happier and easier and which I hope that we have used
wisely for others, but I truly have said “thank you” to him many times. Now I’d like to
have that said to him.
S/T: It does not need to go through an intermediary for he has been with
you and has been interested in the use to which you have put this so he is
immediately aware and will be for a while yet to come.
Maxine: I have also one other question. Is my physical disability on my left side a
karmic disability, and can I overcome it in this life by making up for it?
S/T: Yes, it is karmic in origin. You were a very talented singer but
through selfish motives you chose to deny the world your gift, bestowing it on one
single person. This, in effect, set up an atrophy of the singing muscles. Now I am not,
of course, speaking of a physical muscle. This is a symbolic term you understand.
Consequently, in this particular incarnation you are having to deal with restricted
movement, not being able to enjoy the full freedom of the fullness of a whole and
perfect physical body. However, as you think of giving of yourself, of your talents, in
this life, no matter how small or insignificant they may seem to be to you, in every
minutest instant you are increasing the ability and potential mobility of every cell in
your body that is not as it should be.
Maxine: Thank you, that is very helpful to my understanding, very helpful. I hope I
can be big enough.
S/T: It takes a great deal of effort and a huge heartedness. And may you
have all the blessings and joy of this season.
And now, there is another who sits back with folded hands.
Ida: I have a question. Last time we were here I saw somebody come in and sit
by me. He was a large man with a tan coat. Did I imagine that or did I really see
somebody come in.
S/T: No, you did indeed see someone come in. As a matter of fact, we have
quite a gathering here this evening. It was simply a psychic perception, and the
gentleman is not known to you necessarily. He simply chose to be near you because
you have that kind of vibration which made him comfortable.
Bonnie: Remember that I said I always like to sit next to Ida. She never remembers
me but I always like to sit next to her because I always feel comfortable by her. She
reminds me of my grandmother, especially her facial features.
Ida: Now I remember it. There was a young couple who asked me to help her
sister. She had a little problem, and now he is visiting her for the holidays. Is her problem
going to be all right?
S/T: There is the possibility, of course, but this young person needs to look
higher, needs to be more aspiring, needs to seek higher guidance and be less
dependent upon the material provided here. Encourage her to seek assistance from
her own higher guidance; and if you can encourage her in visualization, have her
work with a picture of a fountain, for as the water goes up it falls back down and
thus as you aspire to higher and more lofty thought, this very aspiration brings back
to you the blessings of the waterfall back to earth.
Clista: We have some close friends that we have formed (certain) connections.
They have a little grandson that has been kidnapped. Will this grandson be safe from
kidnapping again?
S/T: That is going to depend upon how the parents deal with the original
cause. While these kinds of experiences appear to come from without, they also
come from within. Your creative mind always creates the circumstances of your life.
These parents need to do some deep soul searching so that they come to understand
why they had the experience in the first place. Now while it is unlikely that the child
will again be kidnapped, it is possible that other experiences of similar traumatic
emotional impact will occur unless they can find the root cause for this experience.
Do you understand?
Very good. Did you have anything further you wished to ask for yourself
personally?
Clista: I have a real problem with assimilating foods properly. Is this a karmic
thing from other times? I just gain weight eating hardly anything.
S/T: Of course, in one respect everything is karmic inasmuch as in one
lifetime the emotions and choices and decisions and thoughts and action set up the
creative forces which bring into effect the other lifetimes.
But for this particular problem there are psychological values which are
being brought to bear on your endocrine system and thus your system creates excess
tissue instead of eliminating. One of the things which you must work on is
elimination.
Now this is not purely the physical function of which I speak, but you must
work to release all that is unnecessary in your life including thoughts and emotions
as well as material possessions. You furthermore need to work on your self-image.
When you attain that degree of self-confidence, you will not need a layer of fat
between you and the world. You can stand naked, so to speak, in and of yourself,
and be proud that you are thus. So here are the two roads to conquering this
problem. Does that help you?
May the coming years being you peace of mind and the happiness that you
seek being always aware that happiness is not always a constant state of affairs but
one can be happy in spite of what one’s life appears to be. We have spoken of
happiness and serenity and peace of mind in the study of the beatitudes. Do re-study
these and benefit from the lessons therein. Peace and joy be with you.
Myra: Silverthistle, my name is Myra. I had a dream about two weeks ago and
my mother spoke to me. I can see her so clearly, and it made me wonder if she is making
some kind of attempt to contact me. Do you know if she is?
S/T: She is present this evening. She stands behind you. Close your eyes.
Bring yourself into a calm state of mind, and you will feel her hand on your
shoulder. (Pause) Then she moved her hand to the top of your head and blessed you
in the way that she did when you were very small.
She will not be with you very long. This is why she comes now to tell you not
to look for her any more. She blesses you with her love, but she must now accept a
new assignment. She is not coming back into this physical realm, but she is
accepting a life in another condition.
Myra: This is the first time since she died in 1963 that she has come to me. All of
these years I have wondered why she didn’t. What a wonderful thing to know. What
about my father? Is he anywhere around?
S/T: He is not present. If you wish me to put his name into the exchange I
would do that for you. We will try to have an answer for you later.
Myra: Thank you. I have a question about Nestor. Several years ago he had a
reading which was rather disturbing. He was told that he had some negative entities
hanging around him enjoying his problems. He refuses to accept that, and I am
wondering if there is any truth to it.
S/T: Yes, there is some truth to this. I would prefer not to answer such a
question at this time. Perhaps if you consider it that necessary for an answer we
would attempt to answer at a private sitting. (Some exchange between S/T and Myra
not important to the transcript)
Richard: I am Richard, and I would like to know, Silverthistle, about my physical
problems. I have suffered all my life with problems of elimination. I am wondering if the
trouble I am currently having with my bone marrow and with my arm muscles is related
to that. Could you tell me what the cause of the original problem is, anything else that I
can do to remedy it.
S/T: These problems are most certainly connected directly with each other.
They are directly connected to another life in which you have refused to give service
when it was requested of you. Thus it was in this life to deny you certain usages of
your muscles.
Now the bone marrow of the physical which you inhabit is the producer of
the blood which flows in your veins. The quality of that blood is dependent upon the
quality of the bone marrow. So it is in other areas of your life. Where you have
structure there lies within the components of that structure the essential substance
which produces the life blood of the structure, enabling it to move forward or
backward. It is that necessary.
You must look into your life and examine these inner substances which
produce certain thought patterns. Remember the lesson of the god attribute “Life”
given by Judith and other comments in which you have been told that which you
create continues on in independent life. As you move to monitor more closely those
creative processes which produce certain entities, you will be creating the source of
life blood that will sustain more adequately the entities which you create.
As you turn your thoughts in this direction the effects of those thought
patterns begin to appear in your physical members. You will find that the healthier
your thoughts are with that which you create, the healthier the physical bones
marrow of your body will become.
The problem of elimination is that you have certain pet ideas which you
continue to support and protect and cling to. When you can cut yourself loose from
these pets, you will find that some of your elimination problems will begin to clear
up. Many of these pets cause you a great deal of stress, and as you stress emotionally
and mentally, your body becomes stressed physically. Then you suffer the physical
symptoms of blocked elimination.
These pets are so much a part of your personality as you have created it in
this life that they will be very hard for you to identify. If you wish to solve the
physical problems, you will have to identify these pets. They are basic assumptions
upon which you conduct your life. You must look into all of your attitudes including
those to be generous and loving. Be sure that a generous and loving heart is not
sponsored by some secret personal motivation. These are the kinds of pets which
you must seek out, weed out, and eliminate. When you have eliminated this junk,
then your body will eliminate that which is unnecessary for the sustenance of the
body. I have attempted not to be too specific, but I hope I have answered your
question.
Comments from the group as well as Richard about this helping everyone.
LaMar: I have a question here. In the case of someone who is suffering physical
ailment from a past life, in other words karma, can someone like the Philippine healers
help them or do they have to go ahead and do it themselves, or is there a combination
there?
S/T:Of course, there is always the combination. The body is always self-
healing. No one ever heals the body of another. One can only create an environment
or circumstance or energy pattern in or through which the body can do its own
healing. Thus your thoughts affect the health of all of those around you as well as
the health of your own physical organism.
In the case of the Philippine healers there is that stronger, more focused
energy which enables that one to create a more proficient environment for at least a
short period of time. But unless the psyche is ready to be healed, the physical body
cannot reflect the healing.
And now, good sir, may I extend to you all the blessings and joy of this
season. Now for your loving wife.
Mary: Silverthistle, I have two questions. They could be connected, I don’t
know. I would like your help to know what is going on in my life right now with all of
the turmoil that is going on within the emotional and physical part of me. I just don’t
seem to understand what is happening. There are so many things going on. And what is
my purpose in this life time? What is the real reason that I am here?
S/T You are correct. These two questions are tied together. The turmoil
that you are experiencing at this moment in your life is due to the fact that you are
at a point in a cycle of self-identification. In order for you to become self-identified,
you are in the process of eliminating a lot of psychic junk. As you bring up all of this
trash out of the cellar of your mind, of course, chaos is created. One never
successfully cleans house without making a bigger mess first.
You are in the process of clearing out a lot of debris because you are almost
ready to make another step in this life that will carry you forward rather rapidly.
One’s mobility is greatly inhibited when burdened down with a lot of unnecessary
collection. So there are things happening in your life that are causing you to “lose
certain persons”. But these are not losses. These are clearing house matters. You
must allow these people to go no matter what the circumstances may appear to be.
Try to have patience and the faith that all is in divine order, that you are, in
fact, experiencing that which you must experience at this point in your life. It is in
the way of being a testing pattern and as the turmoil ceases, as these patterns
become cleared up, you will become more aware of what your purpose in this life is.
It would serve no good benefit for you at this time if I were to jump ahead
and give you knowledge which you are not yet ready to entertain. When it is time
for you to know this, your own mind will present it to you in all clarity. For now do
not worry about it. Practice serenity, study the lessons, and follow those precepts.
May your life be blessed thereby.
You still have a question in your mind. If you can frame it in such a way as to
present it in this group, I shall try to frame my answer. Or you may wish to do it
another time.
Mary: In the matter of clearing out – would this involve changing jobs?
S/T: Yes. You see when you make such a change, you are releasing people,
and this is what is happening now. Things are drawing to a close for you. You are on
the threshold of a new doorway in your life. Let go. Do not cling to that which you
think you must have. Let go. Give yourself the freedom to step through into a new
life. Do you understand what I am saying to you?
Mary: I think I do even though it’s kind of scary.
S/T: Oh yes, indeed! But walk in faith. You are not alone! And may this
holy season bring great blessing and peace of mind to you. Now our dear friend,
Mary (Silveira).
Mary S: I am very happy to be here with you tonight, Silverthistle. I send blessings
to you. I appreciate you. I would like to send my father a message. I had a wonderful
mother, but she and I could not be together for five minutes without getting into an
argument. Part of it was that I was right, partly because my mother was overprotective.
On the other hand she does appear to me twice a year at her birthday time and at her
death time. She gives me great guidance, and I always appreciated her guidance, the
wonderful morals she taught and the way she took care of us and gave us high ideals to
live up to. I want her to know this, and my blessed sister who has gone on who was
almost like a mother to me. Could I have these messages sent to them?
S/T: Again, this night, you need no intermediary for they are with you. As
a matter of fact, I am going to speak not only to you but to your mother. She will not
be able to go on until she quits trying to protect you. She cannot continue to mother
you. She must go on. And now I have offended her, but I have said my piece.
Mary: I appreciate the protection, and I am sure there were times when I needed
it greatly because whenever she appeared and told me these things, they were so, and
helped me to deal with them in a more spiritual, godly manner. I appreciate that, but I
know that she is over there and has things to do. I am releasing her because I feel the
wonderful guidance that I have from my guardian angels.
I’d like to talk about them a little bit at this time. For years and years, I felt the
closeness of an oriental man, Quan Yang, a very wonderful guardian angel who was my
father in an oriental lifetime, according to my information. But in the last year, he has
been replaced or added to by a very handsome lad, a very handsome younger man who
has led me into, or help me out of, some very interesting situations. Is this true? Am I
really feeling this or is it something that is really happening? Or is it my imagination?
S/T: Of course it is your imagination, but without that faculty man in the
flesh would be unable to have dreams or meditative experiences. Nor would he be
able to visualize and thus give power to his thoughts to perform the miracle of
healing. The young man has only just now joined the elder because he was
incarnated in the flesh and has only recently been released. He has now come into
your life as a next step in his own development. Welcome him. He will be a great
blessing for you.
Mary: I do welcome him, and I feel his wonderful light. I’d like to know what to
call him. I want to talk to him and identify him.
S/T: Names are by way of being the nature of things and people. It is for
you to find the nature of this guidance and then the name will be known to you. I
must not step in. The name Michael you feel connected with him will serve for the
time being, but you will be given a different name.
Mary: Thank you. I want to ask about the cross. I always feel better when I wear
a cross. Is the cross a great protection for us when we wear it or visualize it or follow it,
as we feel it is?
S/T: The cross in the physical represents patience. As a necklace it acts like
a lightening rod. Its points each have symbolic meaning and act as diverters or
conductors of certain energies whenever the need arises. Thus the cross is a
magnificent protective device for man to wear on his fleshly body. The meaning of
the cross, however, is much more pagan than you would wish to believe.
The cross pre-existed Christendom by many, many centuries. It has many,
many meanings. For one thing, it has four points which represent the physical
existence. We have the occult number four which is the form of physical existence,
the mold of physical existence. I do not wish to go into a long dissertation on the
cross. That probably will be a subject of a lecture at another time.
Mary: I would like to tell you about a meditation I had in a prayer group that I
attend. I was going into the meditation, getting higher and higher into the spiritual realm.
I saw Jesus, and he beckoned to me, and I kept going. I was aware of beautiful colors.
They were not like colors I could see here. I continued to follow him, and all of a sudden,
he put his hand up as if to say, “You can’t go further, this is far enough.” I wonder if that
has a meaning about my future.
S/T: No. It was a meaning only for that moment. You had tuned into a ray
on which you could have walked out of the physical, and it was not time.
Mary: I would like to learn how to walk out of the physical. Is it all right to do
astral travel?
S/T: Astral travel is not that of which I speak. On this particular ray you
would have walked into the corridor of transition before your physical body was
ready to be abandoned. (Interjected: If she had gone on what would have happened?)
She could not have gone on. The powers would have stopped her. (S/T
concluded with a blessing to Mary.)
Bonnie: I am Bonnie Wisz. I have really enjoyed the readings. I have read all this
week. I have a few questions. Tomorrow morning I am flying home to be with my
family, my two daughters. I was wondering if I could take a message from my father to
my family. His name is Frank Wisz. Then I have some other questions that are not related
to that. Should I give those to you now?
S/T: Let me first put the name into the exchange. (Pause) Now proceed.
Bonnie: I have a cherished friend. His name is Bill Rutherford. I have tried to help
him the past four years, and he has suffered so much, not so much in the physical sense
but emotionally. I feel that one of the reasons is his brother died in a swimming accident.
Bill has always felt that he committed suicide at that time, and he has suffered. Is there
any way I could find out if it is suicide or an accident.
S/T: Let me put his name into the exchange as well. Bill Rutherford. Now
we shall see if we get an answer later. You had other questions?
Bonnie: I was wondering, when we get together here and we do a healing, can we
do that by ourselves? If we meet someone who is suffering, and we feel that we want
somehow to help them, can we create that kind of energy just by ourselves?
S/T: Yes, indeed, you can create the energy.,. but always be aware that if
the individual is not ready to accept the healing, it will not occur. You very often, in
your desire to help another that you see in need, set up the criteria of that help.
Healing can take the form of your dying. Be willing just to generate the energy and
then dwell in the thought of healing and perfection with the faith that it is potential
for that person. Do not be affronted when you seemingly get no results.
Myra: Can it be harmful in any way?
S/T: Nothing is harmful when you do it out of the motivation of pure love.
If there is any thought of self-aggrandizement, “Oh goody, look what I can do!”,
then there is harm.
Myra: If the person does not ask for healing thought, is it better to pray without
their knowing about it, or do you ask them if they want you to pray, or how does that
work?
S/T:Again you are trying to be judgmental. If, in your judgment, you see
someone in need, either ill or without funds or whatever, and that person has not
asked you directly for your help, your best method of treating that is to turn it over
to divine will with the confidence that divine will accepts the responsibility. It is an
unfortunate state of affairs that man, in his great wisdom, feels that it is only he who
can do the work.
Myra: I have a friend tonight in the hospital who feels that way, but I am going to
pray for him anyway, after what you say.
Maxine: Maybe it makes you feel better. Maybe the prayers help you as an
individual in dealing with the whole situation.
S/T: That is always true. Now do we have any other questions? Bonnie?
Bonnie: Yes, I have something that has bothered me for a long time, and that is the
cremation of a body. I know of a lady that passed away last week. I don’t know her
personally, but I know a friend of hers. Her name is Dorothy Rayburn, and her friend,
Bob, told me about her body. As soon as she died she would be taken, and her body
would be burned. There would be no services or anything. That bothered me, and I want
to know why I am so disturbed by that. I need to know. Is something wrong with
cremation or is it OK?
S/T: Willful cremation is out of the natural order of events. The creative
mind builds this body you wear out of the elements of the earth which support it.
When such an aggregation of components is subjected to the element of fire, the
very essence, the essential nature of that construct, is forever changed. At that time
the elementals, the salamanders, must take over, and through the process of their
treatment, which I do not wish to describe at this time, bring those elements back
into the condition that they can again serve as components of a physical body. It
(cremation) delays the re-cycling process.
Now when bodies are burned by fire in some natural way which may appear
to be disastrous, it is in accordance with the divine order, and that is the way those
components must pursue their consciousness path. But to willfully burn the physical
body is by way of delaying the natural processes. Thus it is offensive to that part of
you which is in tune with the recycling intent. Does that answer your question?
Bonnie: I think so. I think this is why this has always disturbed me so much.
Myra: It causes a problem for me. My mother was cremated. Is that why it took
so long for her to come back to me?
S/T: No, that is not what I am discussing. It’s the physical elements that
comprise your planet. The current practice of cremation is not necessarily
conducive to further earth recycling. Unfortunately, in the mind of man has grown
up a sort of fear about putting a body into a grave already occupied by another
body. When sufficient time has passed the previous occupant of that space is no
longer there, and thus that space could again be used. It is not a common practice
mostly because of religious views and personal sentiment. The ideal thing would be
to place the discarded physical shell directly into the earth itself and let mother
earth have back her own so that she can replenish herself and better serve man. Yes,
without embalming and without any kind of treatment or enclosure.
***Question: What about taking out parts and using them on other people. Doesn’t that
make a conflict of spirit somehow?
S/T: No, that does not. If you will recall in the lecture on the physical body
that it is like a machine except that the component parts have consciousness. If the
consciousness of the physical body’s cells is close enough to the consciousness of
another body’s cells, then the parts are interchangeable. You are not denying
mother earth nor mother spirit.
Yes, it is a loving thing to do.
Now let us go back to the exchange and see what we can find.
Bonnie: I still had one more question. It is about a memorial service for a person,
Should there always be a memorial service.
S/T: Yes. It serves a highly spiritual purpose. Now if the memorial service
serves only the purpose of the attendees feeling sorry for themselves, then I refer
you to the beatitude about calling the Comforter. But in actual fact, the purpose of a
memorial service has grown out of man’s knowledge that he in the physical flesh is
also spirit and assists his brother in the transition with his thoughts as you bless and
encourage the person to go forward into his own light and knowledge. The memorial
service does indeed serve the departed for there is no departure. That person, while
we speak of a corridor of transition, is still here, present and accounted for.
And now we will extend our love and blessings to you Bonnie, and all of you
here tonight. Let us go back to some of the exchange questions.
In order to help me pull the information out, I will ask each of you who have
put a name into the exchange to again state the question concerning that individual.
(In response to Owen) We get what appears to be a facetious answer, but I
believe that it is not. Thus only that the lady has a delightful sense of humor. She is
sewing little things. What she is actually doing is assisting in the preparation of
psychic garments. While your creative mind produces the subtle bodies that you
wear, there are those who assist you in this process even as parents assist the child
by protecting and nourishing. She has sent you the message that she is more serene
and content than in any lifetime which she can recall.
(Response to Myra) He (Lionel Kendrick), too, sends a message of happiness.
He is in the process of preparing a new burning (?) device which will come into the
mind of an inventor now in flesh. He will be with that person to help prepare this
device in a physical construct that it will serve to enlighten school children in higher
aspects of psychic endeavor. There is a tag end to the message coming through:
Loving, blessings and pardon to you.
Mary S: I asked about my mother, Rose Pitman.
S/T: I must not have put that name in the exchange. Did you give me that
name?
Mary S: I didn’t. Several meetings ago I asked about a Ray Hofflinger. If he had
any message I could give to his family.
S/T: I shall put those two names into the exchange. Perhaps we can have
an answer after we have talked further. (Pause and a question) I beg your pardon. I
was temporarily occupied. May I have your question again? (some back and forth
comments) There is some interference in this, similar to static on your radio. But
here is a message of some serious intent as though he is trying to tell someone where
he left something. I’m afraid there is too much garble. I cannot decipher the
message. I am sorry.
Bonnie: The other one was Earl Rutherford and whether his death was accidental
or whether it was suicidal.
S/T: That one is still sleeping. Until he awakens into awareness I can’t
answer your question. Pray for him. Think his name and then think the sentence:
“Look for the light.” Do you understand. Good.
LaMar: I have another question while those go through the exchange, if there is
still time and energy. Was the all-out war which my former wife Frankie declared on me
something which I was supposed to experience for growth, a testing period, toughening
up for the earth changes, or did I just blindly wander into that foray?
S/T: There is that in your energy pattern which tells me that you were with
someone that you had been with before, and the problem would not be solved except
that you took extraordinary spiritual measures. This indeed was a growing
experience for you, and she will go through similar experiences with others until she
gets her act straightened out.
It was not meant as a karmic punishment, and you did not take it that way.
You could have created a situation in which you would have to resolve this with her
or someone else like her at another time, but you chose to resolve it at this time.
Thus you are free.
LaMar: Thank you! Am I correct in my belief that my wife Verle and I parted
company peacefully after 31 years of marriage because we had completed our karma, or
whatever it was we had to learn, and had other things to do that we would not learn if we
remained married?
S/T: It may seem as though you parted friendly, but indeed you did not,
and there is still some of that tapestry to be woven.
Myra: Do we come back in different lives to the same husband or wife because
we still have something to work out with them?
S/T: Occasionally that does occur. But you may not enjoy the same
relationship as the gender roles may be reversed, or it may be as parent and child
rather than as spouse. But these things can also be worked out with other members
of the soul family.
LaMar: When is this tapestry to be woven with Verle to occur?
S/T: Not in this life. You have a third marriage to contract.
LaMar: Surely you jest. Give me strength.
General astonishment, hilarity, and comedic comments in the group.
Bonnie: Silverthistle, when you said “look for the light” does that mean to look for
god?
S/T: No, to look for the light. The light will awaken him so that he may
understand what has occurred to him, so he may be in a position to fulfill the
responsibility which he has taken upon himself. It is not for me to say whether or
not he committed suicide. Remember, always, you create the circumstances of your
lives. Even if you die in an accident you have created it.
Clista; My mother fights us girls in what we do. Would it be better to keep our
distance from her when she is so hostile? (S/T gives affirmative)
LaMar: Is this third marriage you just mentioned due to the fact of these three life
streams that are culminating at this time? (S/T gives affirmative)
S/T: Let us try for the questions in the exchange. (Rose Pittman) That
personality is now shelved. It has served its purpose and while it still exists as
nothing is ever lost, it is not currently being used in a life experience. (Dr. Hofflinger)
This blessed soul is off to visit heights he did not have access to in most recent times.
(His wife is grieving quite a bit.) He sends love and greetings but needs to be allowed
to pursue his current plans. This is his message: he needs to be free.
(My mother, Dorothy Bristow) The message comes from someone close to her
saying that she is now a person of great light and is teaching.
(Could I ask about my aunt Angie C?) I would have to put it into the exchange,
and I am afraid that the instrument is running low on energy. Perhaps we could
wind this up now and ask you to sing some energy into the room. (Group sings Silent
Night.) Thank you so very much. I decided I would stay and tell you how very much
I appreciated this and again extend to all of you the peace and blessings to which
you are all entitled. God be with you and goodnight.
Session ended with singing of O Little Town of Bethlehem.
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