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Session #121 – July 9, 1989
Present: Betty Welty, Edith Durfey, Jean Chisholm, Jeneeka, Jnana Sivananda,
Joni Schultz, Jon Paul, Myra Perala, Peter Valiton and Sidney Smither.
This was not a trance channeling session, so some of the opening remarks have been lost.
Gloria: ...the Realm of Self builds the Realm of Ego and what the Ego’s
responsibilities are. I think if we study this material, it will become clear about our
Self-hood and Self-construction and so forth. But I think before we get into any text
sort of things, we need some dialogue as to what you’ve been studying and where
your questions are, and where I can help, if I can help, to clear up any confusions or
answer any questions, or whatever. What did you study in your last study group?
Jnana: The last one we had at Owen’s, we went over the transcript for Circle
#120 and talked a little about having high Consciousness. We discussed the Ego
boundaries, and fate and destiny. We also did some practice. I was projecting colors and
they would write down the colors they received. (Good, good. You’re working on some
subliminals. Wonderful.)
I think the greatest thing was that Joni and Ida got the first set of five identical,
but they weren’t the five that I sent. (To Joni: You and Ida are both Capricorns.)
Jenika: Can you give us some ideas, Gloria, about receiving? (About receiving
from your source?) Well, that’s good, too. That opens up another idea. (Oh, you’re
talking about receiving subliminally?) Yes, and also sending.
Gloria: OK. Well, they’re two different functions, and you shouldn’t try to do
them both at the same time. The receiving gets directly into what we’re doing in the
summer seminars and what the teachers told us. I guess Sheariam’s lecture at the
end of the Wheel of Karma, where she talks about stretching into the Realm of
Mind. You have to do that through the Vital Body. You all know how to breathe
and expand your Desire and Emotional Bodies. You know that as you breathe and
expand these subtle bodies, you become calmer.
What’s the first thing that happens to you when you become unbalanced,
whether you’re scared, or….
Jnana: Shortness of breath.
Gloria: Right. Your whole throat, your whole power center, closes up, and the
only way you can get over that is to breathe. That’s part of Silverthistle’s teaching,
that breathing expands the subtle bodies. The more fearful and apprehensive and
anxious you become, the more solidified and viscous your subtle bodies become, and
they close into protect this carbon body. That’s what they’re doing. They are your
external skeleton, just like a soft-bodied shellfish that has the external shell to
protect it. That’s what your subtle bodies are for you, although they penetrate, too.
That’s not an exact analogy, but that’s the way they work for you. They close in to
protect you. Then by breathing, you relax.
Take a real deep breath now and see what happens to your abdomen. You
cannot tighten your abdomen and take a real deep breath. You can tighten your
abdomen as you exhale, but to keep tense and to keep breathing deeply is almost an
impossibility, because as you breathe in that expands. So that’s your first step:
breathing. That’s why, before you go into meditation or anything, your leader or
your teacher or whatever always says to you, “Take some deep breaths. Inhale
through your nose and exhale through your mouth.
Betty: Why is it that particular routine?
Gloria: Because your nose and your nasal passages are a filter system for you,
and it’s part of the skin system that protects the interior of the body against bacteria
and so forth. Your nasal passages are directly connected with your Vital Body,
which I won’t go into right now. But your Vital Body acts like a skin organ on the
body. So by breathing in through your nose, you assist the body’s organic function.
It’s the skin’s function to protect you, keep your temperature stable and help your
circulation.
When you exhale through your mouth, you are performing a function with
your lips. You should purse your lips. You shouldn’t “hhhhaaaa”. That’s a different
thing altogether. You should blow through pursed lips to expand the subtle bodies.
Edith: Doesn’t Edgar Cayce and maybe some of the eastern teachings tell you
to….
Gloria: We’re not talking about using breathing exercises for altered
consciousness. We’re just talking about answering Jenika’s question as to how to
make subliminal communication, how to receive. I’m trying to give you the
mechanics of it. You can’t receive unless your subtle bodies are porous. They have
to be expanded. You have to be accessible.
When you’re angry, are you accessible? No. You’re all closed in your tight
little shell. If you’re anxious or apprehensive, how difficult is it to get through to
somebody to say, “Don’t worry.” You can’t tell someone who’s worried not to
worry. They don’t breathe. When a person’s in trauma or shock or a sudden
imperilment of some kind, don’t you say, “Take a breath. Breathe deeply,”? Why do
you think you do that? Somewhere, deep inside, you know these things.
So, when you are consciously attempting to expand, you have to breathe first.
That means really recycling all the air that’s in your lungs. That is clear to the
bottom lobes, not just breathing in these upper lobes where you breathe most of the
time. That’s not healthy breathing, but we have gotten in that habit as our
atmosphere has gotten more and more polluted. We have instinctively felt, “I don’t
want to take this pollution in”, so we don’t breathe as deeply. But if you’re going to
expand your subtle bodies, you have to breathe clear to the bottom lobes of your
lungs.
As you expand the subtle bodies, the Desire and Emotional Bodies, you relax.
You can’t be expanded and not relaxed. It’s not a physical possibility. So that’s why
you’re told in any kind of ESP development or psychic development that relaxation
is the very first step. The first step in relaxation is breathing.
The Vital Body is one we have not talked a whole lot about, but it functions
like the skin organ on your carbon body. Its function is to protect you as the skin
protects you from invasion by bacteria and so forth. The Vital Body protects you
from invasion by external thought forms, other peoples’ thought forms or astral
realm inhabitants of any kind. You are protected by your Vital Body. That’s your
skin. That’s your breather in the metaphysical atmosphere. Just like your skin
breathes to keep your body at a normal temperature, your Vital Body breathes
metaphysically to keep you stabilized in your form.
As you expand your Desire and Emotional Bodies, and you become more and
more relaxed, that skin doesn’t have to work as hard at maintaining the internal. It
can begin to reach out and sort through what’s out there. That’s where the thoughts
come, whether you’re trying to pick up subliminally from someone you know, or
whether you’re trying to pick up from your source, or channeling, or whatever.
That’s what I would have to do in a channeling function. I would have to
shut out the focus of this and focus into a wider realm, and expand the Vital Body so
I can go out of body and leave this body for some other use. In effect, when you are
subliminally receiving, that’s kind of the focus you have to take. Lose consciousness
or awareness of your physical body and stretch out. You keep a focus by saying, “I
want to receive from Sidney, but not from Peter.”
I have to have a feeling of Sidney and a feeling of Peter, and I sort between
those feelings as to which one I want to contact. You’re doing that in your Vital
Body, not in the feelings of the desire body, but it’s the feelings of the Desire Body
that give the Vital Body a “measuring stick”, if you will.
It’s like you’re choosing friends, and you say, ‘I feel better when I’m with
Joni than when I’m with Art”, my brother-in-law, for instance. I have a feeling that
identifies these people when I think of them. It’s these feelings I measure against.
That’s what you’re doing when you’re trying to pick up subliminally. You’re trying
to use these subtle feelings to identify the thought form that you want, rather than
just opening up.
The concept of opening up to the “universe” is dangerous if you don’t know
what you’re doing, because you open yourself up to all the bacteria of the universe.
It’s like opening your skin to all the infectious bacteria in the air. Your support
systems, your immune systems, are not always adequate to that challenge. So you
find those thought forms or entities, or whatever, that drain your energy away or
implant alien ideas in your mind, and you say, “That’s not native to me. Why would
I think something like that?”
Joni: This relates directly to what happened the other night when Jnana was
starting to transmit, and he was sitting by me, A person at the other end of the room, in
order to look at Jnana, was also looking at me, and asked Jnana to physically move so
that we were separated. It doesn’t make any difference to me because I close my eyes
anyway to tune in. But we were trying to explain that it is not necessary to look at the
person to pickup what the person is thinking. (That’s right. It’s the feeling. It isn’t
what the person looks like or the geographical juxtaposition. It’s the feeling in the
Desire Body that you have about what that person represents to you.)
Jnana: So when you open up, is it good to tell your gate keeper to protect you?
(Absolutely.) Is that one of the first steps? (Certainly.)
Gloria: We haven’t gone that far in the discussion but in some trainings, and
I’m sure that you’ve had some of them, where you are supposed to be opening up to
universal concepts. If you don’t have that communion with your protectors, then
you can contact universal concepts that can just blow you away. Most of the time it
doesn’t happen because most people can’t open up that much. It takes years of
training to be able to be that open because there are these Desire Body instincts that
protect the Self.
You also have the protection of the Ego. Don’t forget that. You may have
taken a side road in doing this that gives you more than you can handle for a while,
and it can take your focus off the reality where you need to be. It’s not that
something might not be a valid reality, but it may not be the reality that you can
work within. So people say, “She (or he) is crazy” or “insane”, because someone is
operating in a different reality.
But that’s how you make contact. You stretch. You make yourself porous.
You expand the subtle bodies, and you stretch that Vital Body in the direction of the
person from whom you want to receive. You connect it with a feeling. That’s the
way you usually will get your first perceptions, with feelings. You’ll hear yourself
saying, “I feel…”
Jenika: Instead of “I see the color blue”, “I feel the color blue?” (Yes.)
Jnana: We also added a flavor to each color, a fruit flavor. (Oh, that’s fun.)
Well, actually the flavor for green was mint.
Gloria: That’s good. The more sensory systems you focus into the same
transmission or perception the more success you’ll have in the early stages, because
it takes real practice and expertise to block out your senses. You can close your eyes.
That’s not difficult to do, but it’s more difficult to turn off olfactory senses and your
hearing senses. So if you put them all in together at first, you’ll get better results.
Then you learn to sort them out.
Myra: It’s interesting that in our Tuesday group we were on transcript #85, which
is the beginning of the Realm of Self, and she talked about real similar things. Also #82
and #84 are introductory to the whole Realm of Self, and the whole idea of the Wheel of
Karma. It’s really amazing and a wonderful review. I sure would encourage us all to go
back and read those. It seems to me that it was in #85 that it spoke about the Vital Body
being the skin that connects to the Creative and Mental Bodies. I had completely
forgotten that until, I think it was #119, that same thought came back. Then you spoke
about it, of course, today, so apparently, that’s what we’re supposed to be catching on to
right now.
Gloria: Well, if you stop to think that we are on the threshold of the Age of
Affection, and we may be pushed through or cross that threshold reluctantly, we
may find ourselves in a position to have to do these things. Imagine yourself among
a bunch of strangers whose hands you have to shake. Don’t you feel repelled by
some and comforted by others? There’s all this bodily contact that is disturbing or
comforting, or whatever.
It’s the same thing in your Vital Body. As your Vital Body touches these
external strange things, whatever they may be, people or thought forms or
whatever, you’re going to be uncomfortable or comforted, or in some way affected.
So if we’re pushed into the Age of Affection, our communication is going to be
mostly through our Vital Body. We’d better learn how to handle it. We’ve been
operating out of our Desire Bodies so long, we can’t imagine doing it any other way,
but we’re going to have to learn.
Myra: I have a question about the Creative Body. It seemed that we sort of
skipped through that. (There isn’t any Creative Body so far. We haven’t developed it
yet. There is the creative Mental Realm that we rely on. We don’t do it ourselves
because we can’t. We have not developed a Creative Body.)
The Creative Body, though, comes between the Vital Body and the Mental Body.
(I think that’s where it will come when it’s built. When we build it. But until we can
get into the part of the Wheel of Karma of True Thought, we won’t be building that
body. That’s what they’re trying to get us to do now. Until we can make connection
between the Vital Body and the Mental Realm at a conscious level, we can’t build a
vehicle to travel the gap.)
Jenika: That would be subliminal communication? (Yes. That will be one
manifestation of it.)
Myra: That’s real Thought, really using our Consciousness and Volition.
Edith: If this is a fair question: are you able to do that now so we could have
somewhere we could…
Myra: A role model? (I don’t know whether I actually create Thought or
whether… Right now, I take all new thought to have come from my source or the
teachers that I’ve accessed through the Mental Realm. I have not patted myself on
the back to say that I have had any true Thought.)
Edith: But you don’t know that you haven’t, either, really. No, I can’t say that I
haven’t, but I can’t say that I have, yet.)
Joni:Can you give us information on acting as a sender? (That also requires
porosity. You have to expand the subtle bodies because it’s through the Mental
Realm that you make this exchange. So, if you can’t emit into the Mental Realm
then your thought isn’t there for the other person to perceive.)
Joni: Would you say that since we all have our own portion of the Mental
Realm, you are talking about putting something beyond our portion? (Yes. If you and I
share the same Mental portion, it will be easier for us to subliminally communicate
than for people who do not share the same Mental portion. Think of the common
terminology of “Soul Mate”. What the general thought is on “Soul Mate” is that it’s
someone that you have immediate intimate knowledge of. Those are people of the
Ego Realm, so you would have the same Mental portion, and it’s easy to
communicate.
But how about those people you don’t have that instant rapport with?
You’re not of the same portion of the Mental Realm. Then there’s got to be some
contact, some connection, made, and that takes effort. You know it’s harder to have
a happy time with someone you don’t like. You have to make an effort.
Myra: Is it harder to send than receive? (No. I would say it’s equal. Is it any
harder to speak into a telephone than it is to hear? It depends upon the connection.)
Jnana: It’s easier to think that you’re sending than it is to think that you’re
receiving. “Hey, I’m sending. Sure. No doubt about it.”
Joni: (Adding to the imaginary conversation: “You’re just not receiving”.)
(Laughter.)
Gloria: One of the problems in receiving is that you don’t recognize that
you’re receiving. Our rational mind overrides the perception. It’s the very first, you
might say “gut level” perception that you get. The minute you get a perception, your
rational mind begins to analyze, and wipes it out for you. Then you say “red”
instead of “green”, which is in opposition, you see. You perceive something and then
your rational mind says, ‘She wouldn’t be sending that.” “That’s not in his
consciousness. He’s thinking about something else.” “I know Jnana, he…” The
rational mind wipes it out. That’s the way we’ve been trained through thousands
and thousands of years. That’s what’s taken away our capacity to communicate
subliminally. But in cultures that we consider primitive, that do not have this
overlay of rationality, they still communicate subliminally.
Myra: It’s the left brain that’s rational, and it’s the right brain that is open and
receives it.
Jean: Friday night we were having a big picnic at the waterfront. Three people
came that were feeling not well and very much in pain. At first my daughter said that she
was in pain and wanted me to help her. I took time and did what I could, and then she
said that she felt much better.
Then a person I don’t know well came, and I held a pendulum over him, and it
was just dead. It didn’t move. I was surprised that he asked me to help him. It seemed
like kind of a simple trust, so I said, “Let’s withdraw some so that we’re away from the
crowd, and it will be easier to concentrate.” So we did. When he asked about the
treatment, I thought, “I don’t have time to give him all the instructions on invoking and
so on”, so I said, ‘If you want help, you’ll have to ask, and ask for help from whatever is
your Supreme.” He said, “What is that?” I said, “From your God or whatever.” So he did.
Then I said, “Now let’s say AUM to open ourselves.” So we did AUM. Then I said, I’ll
try to channel energy to you.” He was questioning, but open and asking. So I just held my
hands (gesturing) and did AUM, and I became open. I didn’t try too hard. (That’s the
secret. That’s secret #2. The harder you try, the more you pull your subtle bodies in
and the less success you’re going to have.)
I was just kind of open, and I was completely concentrating here, but I was almost
aware of a “shell” behind me to cut out everything else that was going on. My daughter-
in-law was there, and I didn’t want to embarrass her. There were many other factors, but I
just shut off and concentrated here. We didn’t do it very long because there wasn’t very
much time, but before the evening was over, he was running around with his daughter on
his shoulder and having a good time. Then he came back, and I measured his energy, and
it was very high. He said, “I can’t believe that I can feel so much better!” And my
daughter, too, said, “Mom, I’m OK.
It was really a strange party in that we had Catholics, Buddhists, Presbyterians,
Mormons, Lutherans, and some people who didn’t know what they felt. There was a
great feeling of something going on there. There were all kinds of people there, and some
wonderful things happened, but I couldn’t understand them. (The “Great Ecumenical
Council in the Sky” is at work. That’s the Age of Affection. We’re going to have to
supervene these belief systems that limit us so much, and shut out so much. If each
of those belief systems has been totally operative, those people would not have been
able to communicate. But we’re becoming more ecumenical. We’re beginning to
cross lines, and I think that’s a western influence.)
That’s what happened, because we had Poles, Japanese, Finnish, Swedish,
Norwegian, Scottish, and it did not seem to be a planned thing. We all just came, and the
original plan had been wiped out. Some people who were invited didn’t come. (Your
plans will get you in trouble because you set up boundaries that you feel obligated to
stay within, and you deny yourself opportunities.)
Sidney: When Jean was mentioning about how she was not trying too hard,
and you commented, “That’s important,” that brought up a good question: to analyze the
difference between “effort” and “Feeling and Desire”. What is the difference? You need
“Feeling and Desire” to accomplish things, but “effort” can get in the way. (That’s
exactly right. It takes effort to do something that you don’t want to do. You want to
do those things that you have feeling for. When you feel something, you can
automatically do it. You flow with the feeling. It takes effort to do something other
than what you feel. So, conversely, if you’re doing what you feel, you’re going do it
better.)
Jnana: And if you believe “This is hard”, then there is effort, and if you don’t
believe that it’s hard, then there’s no effort. (Yes. Believe “This is easy”.)
Betty: To me, it takes great effort to do some things, but it doesn’t take as much
effort as if it were kismet. In other words, it takes great effort for me to climb a mountain
path. I want to do it very much, but it takes great effort because of all my fear systems
and so forth. (Right. I’m not suggesting that you not make effort. We’re talking
about subliminal communication here.)
OK. My question is this: To me, effort is synonymous with struggle. When you’re
running against it, or something like that. (That’s right.) But to me, there’s also the
positive side of effort that’s paid with sweat. It’s a positive thing.
Gloria: Certainly, I’m not knocking effort, and I’m not saying it shouldn’t be,
but we’re talking about subliminal communication and the more effort you put into
it, the less successful you’re going to be. Let’s keep the focus on subliminal
communication. That’s exactly what Jean was talking about. That’s what
channeling is. It’s just that in certain forms of channeling, there can be the physical
manifestation which you witness as the teachers talking directly to you. But you’re
in subliminal communication with your source group all the time, whether you’re
aware of it or not.
When I say, “Make the effort”, I’m not talking about the “struggling” kind
of effort. I’m saying, “Allow yourself to have that opportunity. Make it possible for
it to happen.” It doesn’t mean you have to set aside the fifteen minutes a day, and be
quiet and away from everybody. That’s a great advantage, if you can do that, but
you don’t have to do that in order to have communication with your source group
or the teachers.
You recognize by personality. Just like I was talking about the feeling. We
recognize each other by the way we feel about each other. What guarantee do you
have when the phone rings and you answer the phone that the voice you hear is who
that person says he or she is? You measure it by your feelings. What you know
about that person. You may know the tenor of the voice which strikes certain
feelings. That’s how you know the tenor of the voice, by the feelings that it arouses.
Your caller on the telephone is unseen, yet you all are perfectly convinced of who
you’re talking to, aren’t you?
Joni: Last night there was a phone call at some time after ten and I answered the
phone. The voice said, “Hi, Mom.” And I said, ‘Hi there, how are you?” And he said,
“I’m OK. How are you?” And I said, “I’m not feeling too well right now.” And he said,
“I don’t think this is the right Mom!” “Mom” is such a common name, you know.
Myra: But you didn’t recognize the voice as not being…?
Joni: No, I thought I was speaking to my son from Massachusetts. Anyway he
hung up. Maybe this other boy’s mother never felt unwell. I was convinced wrongly.
Gloria: You can be convinced wrongly, and that shows you the dangers you
could run into in channeling, in making contact with the unseen. You can be fully
convinced that you’re in contact with the right sources. You see people who say,
“God told me to kill that person.” They were doing exactly the right thing in their
own mind.
It’s the interpretations we put on things. There was a program, I think it was
on Unsolved Mysteries, about the near-death experience. Some people will say,
“Jesus took me by the hand.” That’s an interpretation of an experience. What tells
that individual that was Jesus? Why couldn’t it have been Mohammed or Confucius
or any other avatar of the ages. Or does it have to be an avatar? Just because it’s a
light does not mean that it’s an avatar. So we put the interpretation on our
experience. So if we go into a channeling or an altered consciousness state, and we
open the doors to any communication, we can become convinced, as Joni did on the
phone. She was receptive to hearing from her son. You’re receptive to hearing from
your source. Any contact can be interpreted as your source. You have to become
aware of personalities because they are persons. They do have personality.
Jenika: I wonder if that’s why that channel at Sidney’s that we went to, is
convinced, as many others are convinced, that they are channeling commanders and
lords. (Oh, yes. You have gold fleet commanders, Kathumi and the angel Metatron.)
There’s a whole hierarchy. (Oh, yes.)
Jon Paul: He said that we were moving from carbon bodies to silicon bodies.
Myra: And that it was lighter. (Silicon is lighter?)
Joni: Not on the periodic table. (As Peter said this morning, “Are you ready
to breathe quartz?” I disagree. That was one of the reasons I chose not to attend.)
Betty: Seth, from what I gathered from his readings, said that when you die, you
get what you expect. (That’s right. That’s the interpretation.)
They make Jesus because that’s what they want. He was saying the encounters
were becoming these characters, Satan, etc., to satisfy them until they’re ready to go on.
Sidney: He gave this story in Seth Speaks of this one Muslim that died that had
this strange fascination for Abraham, so Seth and another friend of his in the unseen…
This guy was really confused when he died, so they gathered together and created this
mountain top with Allah on one mountain top and Abraham on another mountain top,
throwing thunderbolts at each other. Then they became friends, and then this guy was real
happy. (Laughter.) (Are you talking about Jane Robert’s Seth?)
Betty: I got two questions about the Age of Affection. What does it really mean?
Another thing: this business of going up and the feelings you have sometimes, letting all
this stuff come in. (Your own feelings, the feelings you are guided by, moment by
moment by moment, that are the program of your Desire Body, are your best
protection. That’s why they’re there, even if it’s guilt and fear, because if you
contact something that you’re afraid of, you may not be able to handle it. You’re not
ready yet to handle it. You can get into serious trouble, imbalance.)
And when you’re not expecting something, and it comes whamming at you?
(Well, that’s like you put yourself in the highway and a big truck barrels down on
you. Do you blame the truck, or do you blame yourself for being there? You take
your chances. For one thing, you chose to be born at this time in the age of man
when it’s imperative that the reach be made. There have to be pioneers in any
progressive action, and some pioneers perish, whatever the frontier may be. There
will be some casualties along the way, and we have seen some of those casualties.
We see accidents looking for a place to happen all the time, people who are
channeling and don’t know what the hell they’re doing. They are looking for a place
to happen, whether it’s going to be detrimental or positive. It may not yet be
determined, so your own feelings are your best guidelines. If you get into something
that touches fear in you, then stop what you’re doing until you’re ready to handle
it.)
But if it’s another person coming on, like the one that was sharing Joni’s office.
Sometimes you can’t remove. (That’s when you want to relax and concentrate on the
Vital Body’s protection. What do you do when there’s too much sun? You give your
skin some aids. You either give it a hat to shelter the face, or you put on some salve
to block out the ultraviolet or… Whatever. You give it some help. You give your
Vital Body some help, too. It doesn’t have to hang out there.
Remember you are the central figure in this whole play, the Rod. The Rod
has to help the perimeter. So, if you find yourself where your space is being invaded
and battered, it’s up to you to take some kind of action to maintain that space. Your
best action is mental. As long as you allow yourself to get upset by the invasion, you
are not strengthening the subtle bodies. You’re not strengthening that vital Body.
You’re allowing turmoil in the Emotional Body, and that’s not going to get you
anywhere.)
Joni: I went through periods of terror, and it would come in waves, and it was
awful. I, literally, couldn’t breathe deeply, and my stomach was very upset. I wanted junk
food, and I was in sheer panic. Yet I knew it was going to end, and I knew that there was
something better coming afterwards. What would have been some coping mechanism that
I could have done? Do you have any suggestions for when one’s in that space in need of
coping? (Sometimes the best defense is a good offense. You forget that. You are so
into being the nice guy, and accepting your responsibility and doing “the right
thing” that you forget sometimes you have to be aggressive. Be self-assertive, which
finally was the only way you solved your problem, by your self-assertion.)
Yes, it was, and it was very hard to do. The response I got, which was anger and
threats of lawyer and who knows what else, was really something that upset me. (But
don’t ever forget you’ve got all this wonderful power at your beck and call. You get
so wound up in doing this thing yourself, you forget to call on all of the assets the
teachers have given us. You’re never alone.)
Gloria said, ‘Invoke Tzadkiel”. As soon as she said that, I started invoking. The
Monday morning when I went to work, there was a rather conciliatory letter from this
other person, saying that because she wanted to leave an atmosphere of peace in the
office, this was her proposition: that I would have the use of the office during these
specific hours when I said I would be there. She would have the use of the office at any
other time, and if I chose to come into the office at any other time, I would please call her
to ascertain if it was convenient to stop in.
So I called my husband who said, “Be very careful what you write in response.” It
required a response. I just simply said, “In looking at the calendar, I do not see that I am
planning to come into the office at times other than those stated. I understand that you
will be out by the night of the 30th, which was very interesting. So what I did that Friday
was to unload all of my nutritional supplements and take them home. Almost at the end
of it as I was heading out the door, I absolutely smashed my foot into the door, and
separated the little toe from the other ones. It was absolute agony, which was just a very
clear indication that, “Thank you very much. You’ve made your effort. You’ve moved on
enough now. Quit.” So I did, and I didn’t pay such a high price with my toe as I expected,
but it was very difficult. I’ve had the locks changed, and I’ve cleaned it, and everything is
better now.
Sidney: Then she’s out fully now? (Joni replies with a sigh of relief.)
Jon Paul: Have you smudged the place?
Joni: No. I would love a Hadiki to come in and smudge the place and bless it
and really get the energy back. They’re still a little bit confused, but it’s no where near
what it was. It’s getting much better. But if the group would choose to come in at some
point, maybe for a Friday night study group, and meet at my office, instead of meeting
over at Owen’s house.
Gloria: It might be a good opportunity. I might even come to study group!
Joni: That would really be exciting. That would be wonderful.
Betty: Tzaphkiel, Divine Illusion settles the properties of this matter, or what?
Joni: And brings balance and understanding. I didn’t want “love”, just balance
and understanding.
Peter: Well, you got love anyway.
Joni: Well, someone said, “Maybe you just ought to pay her off.” She was
requesting, probably demanding, from me that I reimburse her $5,000 dollars, which
were her expenses directly related to me, of course, to being in the office for that length
of time. I said, “Well, look. I am sending her $10,000 in mercy, love and compassion that
I’m sending through the air waves”. And I have. I’ve been sending her blessings and
mercy, love and compassion wishes for balance and understanding. She left me her same
telephone number and her same post office box to forward mail, so my assumption is
she’s staying here.
Jenika: Joni, remember that dream you had that Sheariam interpreted, with
money, something about money?
Joni: Oh, yeah. I found something up in the attic, and I had to give it up.
Jenika: Has anything come of that yet? Of course, it’s the future.
Joni: I’d say not so much financially as just blessings and being able to share on
a spiritual-emotional level some of the many blessings that I have received. I would say
probably not financially. I’d forgotten about that dream.
Gloria: Remember that money as a symbol in dreams represents power,
command of the situation.
Joni: Well, what has happened is that from what was essentially an untenable
situation that looked like it was going to go on endlessly, has done a complete 180, and
now I have my office back to myself with the knowledge now that I’m in control of that
space and what goes on in it.
Myra: What lesson did you learn?
Joni: That at this time in my life it is most appropriate to work alone in my
space, that invocation works incredibly, and that I need to use it much more than I am at
the present time. I really don’t harbor anger and hatred toward this individual, not that I
would send her patients, but she’s welcome to move next door so long as she’s not in my
space. I have learned that I can make it through something like this. I didn’t think I could.
Myra: There’s another lesson.
Joni: Tell me. Tell me!
Myra: I’m sure you learned it. You learned that you can take charge and be in
powerful control just by getting strong and angry, taking charge, dominating your space.
Joni: Actually, you know, I did do that. I think I was so frightened that I didn’t
accept it maybe, but I did. I did get a lot of help and support from all of you, and I
appreciate that so much. I really can feel that.
Oh, it was an experience – please, never again! Now I said, ‘I will never have
anybody else in my office. Never. And someone said, “You’re setting a limit. You’re
setting a boundary which may not be appropriate. Leave yourself open to the fact that at
some point it may be appropriate for you, and avoid closing that door.” So I have
accepted that at this time I choose to be by myself.
Jnana: You can still have a separate space for yourself which feels comfortable
for you. When you are open in another way, you can compromise there.
Joni: I think I’m realizing that more and more.
Betty: I usually find that when the teachers told us what goes on out there is an
out-picturing of “in”. I’m trying more and more to look in, and see what’s inside of me
when the same things happen even more closely. Sometimes I don’t like to look at it.
Quite often the more I’ve been pushing out here, I’ve got to look within, too, to see
what’s happening inside.
Myra: I think this is a perfect example of how we truly have come to the Realm
of Self, to learn how to cooperate under the ramifications under the Law of Dominance.
This is what you just described.
Betty: To me it’s very difficult to know what is my space and what is not my
space, both from the upbringing and from the position that I’ve taken at the Post Office.
It’s fascinating to watch. I find that I’m constantly saying, “Where is my space?” I like to
work on the theory that a boss can give direction and thoroughly train those underneath.
To me there is no need to be a “boss”, if it’s done right and everybody carries their load.
But many times I’ve been pushed into being bossy, which I don’t like. Just because I
walk softly, people don’t think that I carry a big stick. It’s fascinating to watch where my
ground is. I find that about the time that’s coming down, my mother begins to push at this
end. Then something happens here at home to push in. It seems that nothing ever happens
by itself.
Now this Age of Affection. We were talking about this, about the difference
between “effect” and “affect”. We originally thought that it was the age of hugging and
loving and all this. Then we got to thinking, “Well, is it more of the effect-affect Age of
Affection?”
Gloria: It’s Age of Affection. How do I say this without misleading you?
Jenika: I thought it was Age of Love.
Gloria: Love is only “affection”. We put on “affections” all the time. We pose.
In The Age of Affection there will be no artificial postures.
Betty: We’ll be able to tap in and read each other’s minds, so there’s no sense of
anybody being able…
Gloria: That’s the point. There won’t be any deception. There won’t be the
possibility of any deception. No secrets.
Betty: Oh, my word. I get chills all over.
Joni: This is not coming next week, I gather.
Gloria: No, I’m afraid it’s not. It won’t necessarily be what you call a
complete state of happiness. There won’t be the state of heaven where the streets are
paved with gold, and all you do is play a harp all day. It’s not going to be like that,
not in the Law of Dominance.
Jon Paul: It will bring more understanding, and through that more communication.
There’ll be more feeling of having touched the other person.
Gloria: Well, you see, if you have total access to all there is to know, then
there can be no deception. There will not even be any necessity for communication,
as we understand it right now. We will be “conductors’, and that’s another state of
Ego. Can you recite the States of Ego? You look at them on the wall every time you
come to my house. Purpose, Identity, Conflict/Opposition, Conduction and
Separateness. They’re on the wall in the Circle room.
Myra: Let’s run them through again?
Gloria: Purpose, which we discussed at the last Circle. What is the Purpose of
Ego? The Purpose of Ego is to give us form, is to keep us going, is to administrate
us, and to set our ideals. That’s what the Ego is for. That’s its purpose.
We haven’t talked about Identity as far as Ego is concerned. We’ve only
talked about Identity as being a Need. I think Identity is a Need of the Desire Body,
isn’t it? It’s not a condition of the Emotional Body? Oh, it’s Identity, Space, Union
and Status. That’s the Desire Body, isn’t it? The Identity of the Ego Realm is not the
same as the Identity Need of the Desire Body. We’ll discuss that more.
Then there’s Conflict/Opposition. Those are two sides of a coin. Conduction,
which is pretty much what we’ve been talking about here, and Separateness.
Conflict and Opposition are on the same level. There are five. That’s what we were
talking about here. Betty’s saying, “I don’t know where my space is. I don’t know
how to set up my space and keep it intact. There’s always something attacking me,
usually simultaneously. OK. We’re all in that boat, Betty. You’re not alone in that
boat.
The Ego’s function of Conduction is that function that keep us in the state of
necessity to establish and maintain our space. When we no longer have to establish
or maintain our space, the Realm of Ego will be complete. Now, we talk about
someone being “egotistical”. We see someone who is trying to expand his space, to
expand this area of impact, of impression, because we connect egotistical behavior
with arrogance and pride and braggadocio and all these things to impress, to spread
out our influence. At the basis of that most often is the very fragile sense of Self.
Myra: Poor Self Ego and fear.
Gloria: Yes. OK. So, the function of conduction is to conduct Life through us
in our Space, and to do that we have to deal with all the other Ego Functions of
Identity, of the Purposes, of being Separate. When we no longer have to be separate,
there will no longer be a need for the Realm of Ego.
The further we come down in the Realms, the more separate we become, the
more individualized, smaller, you know, but more clearly identified. It’s like
breaking the atom down into its parts. Then we find that those parts have parts, and
we find that those parts have sub-sub-atomic particles. So we keep honing in and
honing in and honing in, defining and defining and defining. That’s why we project
as Catholics and Buddhists and such and such. Because each of these say, “This is
what you are or should be”. Then when we get to the point of filling that, we think,
“Now wait a minute. This is not accurate”. So our Space is different, or we take a
role here, or they say, “This is what you’re supposed to do.” Then you come to find
out, “Hey, this is not necessarily the way it works. We could do it differently, or
more, or less or whatever.”
Now you’ve got to remember that one of the functions of Ego is Conflict and
Opposition. We are talking about the functions of Ego under the Law of Dominance.
Remember that. This is not total Ego. This is only that portion of Ego that deals
with the Law of Dominance. So, no matter how you conduct your life, the Ego is
always going to see to it that you have conflict and Opposition.
Joni: When we enter the Age of Affection, will we no longer be under the Law
of Dominance?
Gloria: We will still be living under the Law of Dominance, and we will still
have conflict and Opposition, but we will deal with it differently, because there will
not be the deceit. Just because you can know what I can know, doesn’t mean that we
won’t differ in our viewpoints.
Betty: When a person is smiling at me, if he’s thinking, “You S.O.B.”, I can
know that he’s thinking “You S.O.B.” and that’s why he’s smiling.
Gloria: But you will deal with it differently. Through the function of
Conduction you will conduct yourself differently.
Betty: Whereas now we can play little games.
Gloria: Yes, because we still have shields up. We still don’t have full
communication.
Betty: Now, in speaking of shields, somewhere we did a gold net around us.
Does anybody remember that one?
Gloria: I told you about my experience of the gold net while we were sitting at
the table playing cards. Is that what you’re thinking about?
Betty: I was just wondering about how that fit in with the Vital Body which you
say is white, not clear, but white. (Green.) Oh, it’s green. When they speak of the White
Light, I thought that was the Vital Body.
Gloria: It’s part of it. Just because it’s called the “White Light” doesn’t mean
it’s white. It may be that’s all they have been able to see of it. The Vital Body is
green, and you can protect what is yours by surrounding it, including yourself. You
take into yourself all that is yours. It’s surrounded by the Vital Body.
Betty: I have never been too effective with being able to do that, especially in the
past.
Gloria: That’s because you have not had a clear concept of your Space and
what is rightfully your Space. You’re always in doubt. You may say, “Now this is
mine”, but there is always another part of your brain that says, from early
programming, “Don’t be selfish, everything is to be shared”. You chose to be an
Aquarian of which the basic drive is to share everything. Aquarians want to share
all knowledge, all possessions. You know, the Aquarian wants to live in the Age of
Affection right now. So you represent that ideal of going towards that totality in
which there will be clear Identification of Separateness, but there can be no
deceptions and no secrets.
Betty: Clear Identification and Separateness. No deception. Gee, that sounds
neat.
Gloria: For an Aquarian, yes.
Jon Paul: That’s why we give up our Space, because we feel we need to share
everything, even our own Space sometimes?
Gloria: But until you’ve learned to set the parameters of your Space, to
establish your Space, and keep it intact against invasion, you can’t equably share it.
That’s like the person who believes in sharing his last gram of food. He may give his
food away and then resent like hell the person that he’s giving it to. That doesn’t
work. You can’t give gifts with strings on them. You can’t share things if there’s a
consequence, if there are unwritten terms in the contract. You see, in the Age of
Aquarius there won’t be any contract.
Jenika: So are we supposed to eventually transcend the needs of the Desire Body?
(Yes.)
Betty: There will be no contracts. You know, when Sheariam said, “When you
give a gift, give it freely and let it go” that’s very comfortable with me. There are some
things I have thought, “I am not willing to let this go without strings. So therefore, I say,
“This is grandmother’s, and these are the conditions. You can use this as long as you
want, as long as it’s back in the drawer when you’re done.”
Gloria: Yes, but we’re still living in the Age of Contracts. We’re not in the
Age of Affection yet. The Age of Affection won’t have any contracts.
Betty: That’s beyond me.
Gloria: You won’t be driven by the Desire Body drives as you are now. They
will still be there, but you will be choosing in full knowledge instead of driven by
guilt and fear and all the ugly-uglies that now reside in your Desire Body.
Edith: In other words, you will make contracts with different purposes.
Gloria: You won’t be making contracts. There won’t be any need for a
contract. The things in the drawer will be used as they should be used because it’s
all contract. Everybody feels the same way.
Myra: Everybody will support the needs of everybody else, and they will put
things back, and they won’t forget to.
Joni: And your scissors won’t have to disappear.
Betty: You won’t have to write your name on them.
Joni: When did you find your scissors?
Gloria: They only returned briefly. When did we find them, Peter? Last
week? It was before our last Circle that we found them. Just before, I think, the
Friday just before our last circle. Now they’ve all disappeared again except for the
package that I just bought at Costco the other day. I finally had to buy some since I
couldn’t find them. So now I have isolated them. There is one pair that lives here,
and there’s one pair that lives there, and naughty, naughty, if you move them.
(Laughter.)
Jon Paul: Have you put chains on them yet?
Gloria: Well, I’ve been thinking about hanging them around my neck like a
dressmaker, but I couldn’t find the chain to do that with!
Jnana: So everyone will naturally respond responsibly.
Gloria: Yes. That’s a good way to put it. There will be the common
denominator. There will not be these divisions among us of belief systems. Like the
Christian ethic of “Do unto the other guy before he can do unto you.” (Giggle.)
Betty: I was so impressed. I went into the Mormon bookstore up there after going
through the temple, which was fascinating. I thought, “OK, we each have our own
method of reaching for God.” So I went into the book store. “Oh, they have some
delightful things here on survival.” But at any rate, they had little stickers on the table,
and I thought they were delightful. Except they had little boys for little boys and little
girls for little girls, and I thought, “Oh, there’s a message there too.” But the sticker on it
was a happy face, and it said, ‘I take responsibility.”
I thought that was so neat. If they hadn’t had little boys or little girls, I would
have bought some. If we all take responsibility, then we don’t have to set up written
contracts.
Gloria: But you see, we won’t be laying our limited belief system on the other
guy. “You should do this, and you should do that, and you should do something
else,” That will no longer be necessary, because we will all agree on what the
“shoulds” are.
Betty: Will it get boring?
Gloria: I don’t think so, because I think that is beginning to build the
Creative Body. We will no longer be spending all of our time and energy on
protecting our space. We’ll be able then to consider larger concepts, greater growth,
more creative thinking, more real Thought.
Myra: You spoke a moment ago about the idea that we would have differences of
opinion. The Conflict/Oppositions will change, and we will disagree, but we will not
need to have…
Gloria: We won’t be warring, for instance. War will no longer be necessary.
We won’t have to protect our little nuclear secrets.
Myra: And our space will not feel invaded any more.
Gloria: No. You see there won’t be money to be made by subversive activity.
There won’t be anything to subvert.
Edith: No power to gain that way.
Gloria: No power to gain. We’re all equal.
Myra: Will we still have governments?
Gloria: I look for a totalitarian government, a planetarization of
consciousness, as Dean Rudyard put it.
Myra: So that means there would be a “one world” nation that would make
decisions of how it would work. Would it be democratic?
Gloria: It will have to be democratic because they can’t make decisions
without our knowledge.
Jon Paul: It would be like a council, though, or representatives?
Gloria: It will be a focalization of power, but only by consent.
Myra: If we have differences of opinion?
Gloria: There will be a means of working them out.
Jean: As you talk, my first thought was, “That’s going to be a long way off from
the experiences I’ve had this week just in the peoples’ reaction to the Mormon Temple.
***Gloria: I’m not saying this is tomorrow. The end days have not yet come.
Jean: At the same time, I thought that it isn’t going to. It’s in the process of
coming, because this is the talking type group. They’ve divided people into sixteen ways
of reacting, and Collin and I are opposites. First I thought we were opposite on all except
one, but apparently we are opposite on all of them. So as I read this, I see a changing in
our relationship, because he reacts one way, and I react the other. It used to be that I
would be unhappy and angry and so on. When it happened last night, I was able to accept
it. That is the way he is, and that is the way he reacts. So instead of going on and being
angry, I just said, “Well, that’s the way it is. I don’t need to be angry. I’ll just wait and it
will come out all right. I’ll just let go.” That’s something I’m finding in myself as I
understand this better with him. I also understand with other things. I’ve let go and awful
lot. I’ve been working on relinquishment, and at first it seemed death to me, but now it
really isn’t. That experience Friday night was very much.
And there was another one that was really great that I’m not ready to talk about,
but where I had completely let go, and apparently it looks as if it is all coming around to
what I wanted. But, there is one thing that is happening. I wish you could tell me
something about it. I’m doing an awful lot of stumbling, almost falling. In my rational
mind I say, “Well, my friend is in the hospital with a broken hip, and God preserve me
from the kind of torture she’s going through with all this.” So I don’t want to fall. I’m just
protecting myself from falling. But I’m stumbling over the rug and other things. I’m
constantly catching myself almost falling. Can you talk about it?
Gloria: If we take the teachers seriously, that external manifestation is
representation of an internal condition, then I would say that you are trying to tell
yourself that you are putting a lot of little traps for yourself. Each time you stumble,
it’s pointing up a trap. It’s either a rug that could be more securely fastened down
or shouldn’t be there, or you have not looked before you moved your feet. They are
all evidences of thought processes. In any state of change, whenever there are major
changes taking place, there’s fear. We are not beyond that point in our
Consciousness yet that we can make change without fear of the unknown. So there is
a reluctance to see these changes coming about even though you are welcoming
them. You’re putting little stumbling blocks in your way to slow down the process.
Jean: As you said that, it kind of makes sense, because most of the time when
I’m stumbling, I’m wearing my sandals. Since that’s understanding, and it isn’t too firm
an understanding. So it’s not getting the sturdy support of a better shoe, so I think that is
what it is saying.
Gloria: The more firmly you understand where you are going and what the
changes are going to bring, the more sure footed you’re going to become.
Jean: And my desire for the sandals is the comfort, the laziness, really.
Gloria: Freedom.
Jean: Freedom and laziness.
Betty: No, no, no. Please don’t connect freedom and laziness.
Jean: Then the need for more support, more firm understanding. I suppose, more
restraint.
Gloria: More sure footedness, more purposeful action. Be sure where you’re
putting your foot before you take a step.
Jnana: Also, you’re expanding your awareness to bring in outside energies, and
therefore the awareness of things in close is not getting its balancing time. So you have to
be more aware of the things close to you as well as expand your outer awareness.
Betty: Really, Jean’s illustration of the book giving her understanding of Colin is
very much an example of the Age of Affection. Somebody has said “Do thus and thus,”
but that’s a precursor to me. One guy thinks it’s in 16 steps and another may think it’s 24
and another may think it’s 3. But this is essentially the same thing, because there is
nothing hidden. Now she knows how he feels. So it changes the relationship.
Gloria: Yes. Just because you feel a certain way about something doesn’t
mean that I have to feel the same way about it, or we can’t be together in our
endeavors whether to love one another or to function together or whatever. We can
have conflicting opinions about something and still function in harmony.
Betty: That’s stimulating and expanding.
Gloria: You see, under the Law of Dominance, if we don’t have strictures, if
we don’t have something to push against, we won’t grow. We’ll stay static, which is
death.
Betty: That’s where we come into all these things: being Catholics or something.
That gives us the structures that we have to determine.
Gloria: And some of us have chosen stronger structures than others. Some of
us have chosen families that have put tremendous pressure on us. You have, for one
(indicating Betty.).
Betty: And some of us have children.
Gloria: There is something about ourselves to be selected by these children
that give us these wonderful challenges.
Jenika: I’m sure that I didn’t know what I was doing. (Laughter.)
Jean: Using the book again – using it very quickly and see if the same thing
happens to you – it does say “opposites”, and if you notice something I found myself
suddenly aware of. I’ve had this book for some time. Last night I became aware of
something. Well, the thing was, I was really not aware of the “p’s” in reverse. I looked at
it I don’t know how many times. I never saw it until last night (You, see, that was the
perception I was talking about earlier. Each of us will perceive the same thing
differently, and that doesn’t mean that we’re not each of us right in our own way.
I had always seen it down here as these were opposites, and I just accepted this
word “opposite”, yes, of course. And I looked down there, and it was kind of amazing to
me that so much time had gone on. I had not seen this which is so obvious.
Myra: Our brain fixes things. (Our belief system. Opposite is spelled with two “p’s”
going the same way, and because that said “opposite”, the brain says, “Well this is
the way it is.”)
Betty: In the Age of Affection, how would something like that be picked up
immediately? Will we not go on the assumption? (That’s right. We will not go on
assumptions.)
Edith: Our awareness will also be much more acute, will it not? (Our
perceptions will be wider. We will be able to take in more, more quickly.)
Myra: We won’t operate on assumptions then, will we? (No, because we will
have overcome the drives in the Desire Body. The drives in the Desire Body are
what dictate to you.)
Edith: Isn’t that part of your boundary of your space or has to do with space?
(You use that to establish space.)
Your values and your judgments and your rights and all. (Because that goes back
to what I said earlier about “feelings”. Now, how do you put value on things? You
value people that you feel a certain way about, and you devalue people that you feel
a certain way about, or you may devalue a person because of some other
programming that makes you not want to meet whatever that person may be asking
of you. But that all has to do with “feeling”. It all has to do with that basic
programming in the Desire Bodies.)
Peter: You raised a very interesting concept. When we create our Creative Body,
then we’ll be able to manifest instantly? (Oh, Peter and his manifestation! Yes,
sweetie.)
Jon Paul: That would be proof of the pudding.
Jnana: I’m still trying to figure out what will be affected in the Age of Affection.
(Each other and our world, but different affect than we do now. We will be affecting
each other and our world through different affects than we do now.)
Jean: What happens with opposition in the Age of Affection? It will not be
expressed in war, but negotiation. Opposition will still exist. That’s an Ego function.
Without it there wouldn’t be any Law of Dominance.)
Jnana: But negotiation seems like contracts. (Yes, I guess in a way. OK. Right
now, everything is contract. There is no activity that doesn’t involve contracts. You
might say that the Age of Affection will be the great contract that we have all
entered into, that we function within that contract. So we may negotiate clauses
within that contract.)
Betty: The thought comes through to me that the difference will be that the
contract will be open and understood at that time, whereas now (overlapping voices )
(That’s right. There won’t be any secrets so there won’t be any fine print.)
Everything will be laid out and understood. (So when you have a choice, you
will make an informed choice. We don’t have that opportunity now. We don’t give
that opportunity to each other.)
Jean: We’re kind of experiencing that in this great adventure that we’re in. Our
son asked us to take in a Japanese family, and we agreed on a basic fee that they would
pay. And Craig said, “Well, don’t worry. You won’t be taken advantage of. You won’t
lose.” So we went on that. Well then what has happened is that there have been expenses
beyond what we expected. For instance the light bill was almost doubled which again
would have changed the original contract, and some other things.
But there’s still this open feeling that we could say, “OK. This is different. Now
we’ll have to look at the light bill.’ We still have the feeling that he doesn’t want to take
advantage of them, and we don’t want to take advantage of him. So there isn’t a barrier. It
is very much that we can work things out. There’s no conflict, but there’s no written
contract. It’s just that we want to be fair and harmonious.
(How many families have been split asunder by such loose contracts that
then both parties begin to feel exploited and mistreated. Then pretty soon you’ve got
a whole family in turmoil. You know, I can’t describe to you exactly how it’s going
to be. I don’t know. I can only tell what has been given to me, and what my
perception of it is.)
Jnana: But also we have to take responsibility and design it ourselves. (Yes. It’s
still evolving. It’s not set in concrete yet. It’s a direction that we’re going. It’s part of
a larger design.)
Jon Paul: This is the evolution of consciousness in mankind, where we
decide where we’re gong to take it. (Gloria nods in approval.) Then we are moving
towards different kinds of bodies, but the evolution has to come in Consciousness
before we change the body expression.)
Jenika: Gloria, what do you think we’ll see in our lifetimes, in this particular
incarnation? (You may very well live to see teleportation. I may not. You know,
because things can happen within a decade. You look at our last hundred years. At
the turn of the century from the 1800’s to the 1900’s, we had cars and telephones,
but who would have dreamt the cars and telephones and the videos and the spacial
satellites, the planes that fly now, computers. You know, Da Vinci had that concept,
but he was one man in how many? Billions and billions of people that could not even
conceive of such things.)
Jean: My five-year-old granddaughter made a greeting card on the computer. I
wouldn’t know how to do it, but there she has “Birthday Greetings, love, Suphi”, and all
done right on a computer. (You see, we can’t even dream of what the next century will
bring. We can’t even conceive of the things that we will have to cope with in the year
2000. Right here at 1990, we can’t imagine them.)
Betty: My dad lived only 74 years, but in his lifetime the first plane flew, and
man walked on the moon. In his lifetime! To me that’s just incredible. (Compared with
the last 7,500 years)
Jnana: In my lifetime somebody walked on the moon. What’s the next step?
Edith: There are things to come that we can do with our minds, and the contacts
that we can make with other dimensionals. That’s what thrills me. The technology leaves
me cold compared to the other. I’m impatient to move on in that direction.
Jean: (After some comments on the Friday night discussion.) I was saying, “Did
I really do something? Did something that I did affect this feeling of health in Andrew?” I
mean, did it really happen?
Myra: But your left brain hasn’t denied that it happened. You are wondering
what could have preceded, but your left brain has quit canceling it out like it used to.
Jean: I’m just asking in awe and wonder and amazement.
Betty: The whole thing is, what difference does it really make, because you feel
better and he feels better? Therefore, it made a difference. It doesn’t really make any
difference beyond that.
Jean: Well, what I’m saying is, “Did I get the process?”
Jnana: “Can I do it again?”
Jean: Uh huh. Is that the process? Did it really happen? Was it coincidence, or
did it happen? But since it did three times in the same evening… (But how many times
has that happened over the two years, Jean?)
Oh, just a lot of times. (Laughter.) I’m getting the tuning fork again. (Ed Note:
Tuning fork was an inner vibration Jean felt when something “rang true”.)
Gloria: What does it take to put the rational mind at rest?
Jon Paul: How much proof do you need?
Betty: Jean, when you walk on water, you know you’ve got the system. OK?
(Laughter and more comments.)
Betty: It was real funny the other night when we went to hear Dwight channeling
and he was saying how these space ships will come. I thought, “Heck, I’m with Peter. I
don’t want a space ship. I want to go. Heck with the space ship. Let’s do it the other way.
(You realize that this is another concept of the material world.)
Jon Paul: It’s a physical idea.
Jnana: A light ship instead of a space ship.
Betty: The next time, Sheariam said that we were to spend more time getting in
touch with the Higher Self. I would like some threads to work on, some place to start. I
think I get it, and it just seems to dissipate. Maybe that’s not the concept. A lot of ideas
have come in about getting in touch with Higher Self.
Gloria: OK. In your portion of Mind, of the Mental Realm that’s peculiarly
your own, there are basically three identifiable levels, all of which you might call
“Self”. The Polynesians call it “lower”, “middle” and “high”. The “lower” part of
that Mind Self connects to the Desire Body. It deals at that level of primitiveness
(human physicality). The “middle” self would connect with the Emotional Body,
which is your activity. The Emotional Body is what dictates how you are going to
present yourself, or what you’re going to do, whether you’re going to pick up a piece
of litter and throw it in the garbage can or walk by and leave it for someone else, for
instance. That’s the “middle” self. The “higher” self is that higher portion of Mind
that Sheariam is talking about stretching into the Mental Realm with.
Betty: So essentially that’s connection with the Vital Body. (The Vital Body.)
Jean: That’s very helpful.
Betty: That illustration reminds me. One thing that would sure be nice would be
to get you guys to pick up the road, because it’s been bothering me. My prejudices, my
belief systems. We have the gun club come in, and we have Russians and Mexicans that
have moved in on the back. Our road used to be virtually clean, you know. I’ve even
stopped my car once in a while and pick up something, and that would keep it pretty neat
all the way to Highway 99.
Now I’ve been looking at it, and I thought, “I can’t do this. It will take too long”.
When I go for a walk I take a garbage can and pick it up. But on Friday when I went back
to work, I looked out and there were bags here and bags there from the litter patrol.
We’ve lived here for 32 years, and this is the second time the litter patrol has come. I was
amazed. (The power of your mind. Now why do you think that happened?)
I kept thinking, ‘Now how can I do this? I don’t have the energy and the time to
do it.” Then it all happened. I stopped at the first bag and bowed and said, “Thank you
very much.” It was so wonderful.
Myra: Was this part of the State Highway litter patrol?
Betty: He had a white car. I don’t know what it was. (It doesn’t matter what
agency. You just don’t understand the power you have in your thoughts, because
you don’t let it happen.)
Yah, but I’ve been thinking about that dirty garage for about fifteen years, and it
took the group coming out to get it clean.
Myra: I would like to go back to the question about the High Self. Is there a
difference between the High Self and the Higher Self? (No.)
You said that the Higher Self stretches to the… Did you say Mental Realm or
Mental Body? (The Mental Realm endows the Mental Body. OK? You can only
reach into the Mental Body itself.)
So you stretch into your portion of the Mental Body. (Yes. And through that you
can make contact with the rest of it.)
Jenika: How do you do that? Through meditation? (That’s one avenue.) Sleep?
(That’s another avenue. Thought. Focus.) Washing dishes. Making beds. (Yeah.
When you can get the carbon body focused into some routine function. That’s why
you can do such good thinking while you are driving a car. It’s probably one of the
most automatic things you’ve trained yourself to do. So when you can get this
Consciousness focused into some routine mundane task, it frees the rest of you to go
into these other realms of contemplation and perceive things that this focus closes
out. You can do it with sleep, you see, because you put the body to sleep, and you’re
free to roam.)
Jon Paul: The radio cheats you out of that. (It does indeed. The radio and TV are
your two worst enemies.)
Myra: How about quiet music on the radio? Is that distracting? (It detracts to
some degree. If you can train yourself to unfocus enough to hear celestial music, you
won’t ever want to listen to worldly music again. That’s a rare experience.)
Edith: I used to do it, when I was a kid. (Yeah, kids do it a lot.) Younger than
probably eight years old. I thought everybody heard it. (Like really young children
think everybody can see auras, and remember their past lives, and do all of the
things that we adults try so hard to do.)
Joni: Owen had a question that I don’t think I can recapture, so those of you
who were there Friday night can help piece it together, and perhaps the next time we
meet you might address it. It was something to do with how the teachers explain. If past,
present and future all exist simultaneously, how are they able to tell us what to expect in
the future. How far off into the future can they see. Why have things changed from what
they said? What determines whether they are going to change, and if this can happen,
how can they tell us at all what’s going to happen. If past, present and future are all the
same. Do you sort of understand this? (Yes. The rational mind has got to be able to
categorize these things. There are lots of different kinds of time. We’ll be talking
more about time in the Ego function of Conduction that has to do with time.)
Jenika: Sheariam said that she would get into the subjects of time, space and
motion.
Myra: Now we’re talking about time. Are you going to try to answer this
question? (Today? Oh, I don’t think that’s really practical. We don’t have that much
time. (Laughter.) Our time is rationed.)
Myra: I think that we should write it out. (I can hear the question. It is very
similar to some of the questions I get or have gotten in the life readings when I say,
“You may have five questions”. And they make 25 out of 5.)
Betty: I really feel like, when we go back and read those transcripts, I think we
put a lot of assumptions on a lot of things. Just because she gave an illustration over here,
we assumed that was it, and it was going to happen April 12. (Well, they did tell me. I
don’t know whether I told the circle or not. I told a few people about the teacher’s
comment of effect of China’s uprising on the tsunami. There was a news flash over
the radio that Tiananmen Square had happened. It was like source slumped and
said, “That takes the pressure off.” And I said, “What do you mean, ‘takes the
pressure off’?” “Well, it has changed the focus now.” And then without words, they
gave me the understanding that instead of it being Japan and Alaska with the
tsunami coming in at that triangulation, the focus of what you might say the
epicenter of the upheaval had been changed because Beijing is so much farther
south than say Tokyo is. Then later on in a conversation, source said, “But you’re
not excused from the tsunami. You’re not exempted by this. It’s not going to change
that. There is still that threat there.)
Myra: Isn’t it true, too, that our future is definitely affected by our thoughts?
(Absolutely. They haven’t given us this information for us to lock it into fact and say
this is the only way it can be. But knowing this is the potential, we can change the
outcome.)
Betty: I think it was very valid to say, when we were talking about what we can
do to stop it. “Hey, we can’t deny other people their experience.” Even though they don’t
know that they set up the experience. The whole thing is for us to have knowledge in
order to deal with it. Incidentally, this made a great deal of difference in my life. Your
sharing with us that eighteen months until some kind of change or transition. (Yeah. I’m
going to see major change within the next three months. But I think I’m probably
only going to be here geographically for another eighteen months.)
But I’ve been trying to approach more of my life. OK. If I only have eighteen
months, is this worth the sweat? I did want my garage cleared out. But it was just
amazing, because the employee at the post office was getting under my skin. She was
getting inside my white light, or whatever. Other postmasters said, “You need to get rid
of her. She’s no good for the postal service. Start the firing process.” That is hard on me.
I’ve been thinking, I just want her to move out, eventually. But my attitude was: I looked
at her and thought, “I can live with her for eighteen months. That was amazing just my
feeling, “Hey, I can stand her for eighteen months. Furthermore, she wants something
and her attitude is changing.” I’ve also decided that I will not take any more of her lip,
etc. That is my space. It’s amazing. So many things that I have been looking at. Eighteen
months. Will I sweat it or not? There are some things that “yes, I want that done now
because I only have eighteen months. Other things, I don’t give a hoot.” It’s just amazing
how much objectivity that has given me. So I appreciate your sharing with us. (Oh,
you’re welcome. My eighteen months doesn’t mean that is your time table.)
But it changed my thinking. What is important and what is really not. (Yes, I
have found my focus of importance is changing radically. The Print Stop was
tremendously important to me. My being able to learn how to make that press run
and produce a high-quality product was very important to me, and I got a lot of
gratification out of being able to turn out a nice job of stationery or whatever. And I
thought, “I will never be able to give up these presses. I want to take them to
Montana with me.” That was my impression. If I had to rent a railroad car, I was
going to take that shop to Montana with me. It has ceased to be that important now.
As a matter of fact, I think that the person who will be taking over the shop may be
one of the transplants from Los Angeles. I think if I put an ad in the paper in Los
Angeles, I could sell it tomorrow. But I’m not ready to do that. One of the things I
need to get done is called “a book”.)
Think of how happy Jerome would have been with the system you have. (Well,
there are a lot of things I want to get accomplished before this lifetime’s over.)
Jenika: Good. (Why do you say “good”?) Many years to do that, Gloria. (Oh,
don’t say that to me. I need to speed up the efficiency here. Owen’s wanting to
cancel our Bowker’s registration of Temple Teachings books I and II. Bowker’s is a
medium for information to flow between producers of printed material and
consumers of printed material. So they have a world-wide numbering system. The
ISBN numbers come from Bowker’s. You register them even at the inception of a
book, when the book is conceived. We have Temple Teachings Books I and II
registered with them for years. Owen now thinks that maybe we ought to cancel
them because they are not going to be written. I think that’s negative thinking.)
Myra: Maybe his positive thinking is that negative thought will drop it off its
plateau. (I don’t know.) Well, we definitely need books I and II. (We definitely need
them, and they are written in the ethers. They just haven’t gotten put to paper yet.)
How is the “Highway” doing? (It’s still where it was.)
Betty: Way back when making a work book was not a high priority with me.
Now I have a desire to go back, and I think if we just start 1, 2, 3 and work through these
things, colors and things like this. Now we’ve got a background from which to work to
know what to do to put it into shape. To me it takes great knowledge and insight and
understanding to simplify things. The hardest class I ever taught in the years I was
teaching school was a class for the retarded. They asked me if I would teach it. I said, ‘If
you will give me help, because I have no experience and no training.” “Of course, we
will give you help.” Their help was to bring the kids to the door and say, “Here they are.”
I worked harder for that class than I did for all the six others that I was teaching. Because
I had to outline it. Then I had to break it down, and break it down, and break it down, and
see where satisfaction could result in the whole thing. To me, I learned so much in that
year, it was incredible. I had to know my subject forward and backward and inside and
out, and every angle, in order to make it simple enough to break it down. There could be
no assumptions. (But if we had not been given the task of preparing a work book, I
don’t think we would have as much material right now to work with as we have.)
We essentially kind of gave it up that time and approached it differently and have
provided all kinds of things which is a resource.
Gloria: This brings to mind something else. I don’t think I have shared with
the circle, but many of you know Gayla Gage. She’s now in Redding and last week
started a study group. She sent to Temple Publications for supplies, and she now has
books. She has some of the old “Highway” books that were comb bound. While they
are not perfect, at least they are a tool she can use. She also bought the first of four
sessions of the transcripts for her group. She expects to need four. She phoned me
saying she’s got six. (Thursday transcripts suggested.) Well, let’s not set them a
program. Let’s let them do their thing. Here we go with the basic “should, should,
should”, you know. That’s not what we’re about. We’re to be supportive and
helpful. Give them positive thoughts, and let them grow into it as we had a chance to
grow into it.)
Edith: I wish to express my thanks and appreciation to the teachers and Gloria
and to everybody else concerned for the invitation and my acceptance into the circle.
(Expressions of welcome.)
Peter: I see an expression of joy in my wife’s eyes when I do something that
makes her happy. What would happen if we could tune into the temple teachers and say,
“What would make you happy that we could do here on earth?” See what I mean? (I
think in the transcripts you will find various things where Sheariam or others have
said, “This is the best thing you can do for us.”)
That’s why I was eager for a concordance, but I’m not that good on typing.
(That’s what Jnana was talking about on the way down, a program that he’s
working on.)
Jnana: In order for that to happen we need to get all the transcripts on the
computer.
Betty: When I was thinking about the work book while I was ironing my shirts
for work at the Post Office, I was aware I was breathing real shallowly, and I wished I
could go through all the transcripts and pull out everything they say about breath and
breathing. (That’s what we’re working on now. I have decided that the best way to
get that done is to set aside a certain period of time that is dedicated to that. So I
have been using the hour between seven and eight to type something out. But I think
I am going to re-dedicate that time to getting the transcripts on to discs.)
Jnana: Perhaps you could also give us time when we could help, a definite plan
that we could put into the schedule. I’m finding that my days are getting scheduled. I do
this and that and that, and then I get it done. Whereas if I just let the day be empty, it’s
filled up and I can’t do. When I don’t have it scheduled, I just can’t get it in no matter
how much I try.
Gloria: Well, that’s what I’ve been doing with the shop which has increased
my efficiency. And Peter’s been coming down and spending three to six hours a
week at the shop, so I am as near current as I have ever been in a period of two
years. But the only way I can get any extra done is to say, like I said, between seven
and eight I do this regardless. Between nine and five I am subject to the public
input. You know, I’m a shop keeper, and I depend on people coming through that
door to keep that shop there. Two days this week there was nobody, not one single
customer came into my shop in two days. I am attributing that to the holiday week,
the Fourth of July.
I’m saying “This is not going to continue”, because if it continues, of course,
I’m out of business anyway. I’ve got to be there another eighteen months so I can’t
(words drowned out with laughter) but during the slow periods is when I get things
going that otherwise won’t get done. My hope for this past week was to get some
work done on the book. It didn’t materialize. I had to use the time I was going to
spend on the book to keep current with orders that came in the mail. Keeping
current now seems to be the priority. Having reached that stage, I must maintain it,
whatever it takes to maintain it.
But I can’t always schedule ahead. I can’t say, “On Wednesday afternoon I
will have work in the shop that you have the capability of doing.” Do you see what
I’m saying? When you’re talking about helping me in the shop, I’m not always
prepared for your help. The times I could really use the help may come upon me so
suddenly that you are not at that time prepared to come into the shop. It just hasn’t
worked right. Peter calls me about eight o’clock and then comes in and works some
hours in the morning. Whatever he has available, and that’s been a tremendous
help.
Betty: I thank you Peter, for all of us.
Myra: You have a couple of computers at your shop that maybe one of us could
schedule time to come over. (I have offered that for the three years I’ve had them.) I
don’t feel I know how to do it.
Jnana: She’ll teach you all you need to know. (I started her on it, and she was
doing OK.)
Myra: What I think I would like to do is schedule a time when I can come on a
regular basis. (OK. Set your time.) Maybe Monday afternoon I could. (That’s fine. I
use the computers mostly in the morning, and very rarely in the afternoon. Then
I’m usually on the press.) I want to learn how to do it better.
Edith: Does somebody know how many transcripts have already been entered on
disc? Nothing has been entered on disc up to 101 or something. (NOTE: Transcripts
starting with #82 are in Owen’s computer.) I only have 101. I now have a “desk top
publishing” program which reads ASCII which can take any of the circle material and
work with it. I can use the discs that Jnana and Owen are producing.
Myra: How about Marlayna? (No. Marlayna bought a Macintosh, and that’s
not compatible with our system.) That’s something that we really do need. If there’s
anyone else than can type that stuff up. I know how to type pretty good. (Well, that’s
what I try to tell you. If you’ll just type it in there. We can put it through the speller
and monitor. You don’t have to worry about putting it in perfect like you do on a
typewriter. If you just bumble it in there, we can fix it.)
Jnana: I can write a program to capitalize the words that are necessary to
capitalize – the key words. But we’ll have to edit it after that, because some of the words
should be capitalized sometimes and not at others. (Well, everything has to be edited.
The main thing is to get it in there.)
Edith: If she’s got #101, where do we start? (Start at #2. ) (There were others on
a tape system but they wouldn’t convert to the present system.
MEDITATION:
Center yourselves. Focus your attention at the pit of your stomach, at your solar
plexus. And be aware of the waves of emission that come forth from you at that
point. If you need a graphic symbol of it, think of it in the way that you see it
graphically displayed as sound waves being arced into the atmosphere from some
kind of transmitter. When you have that solidly in your consciousness, and you're
clearly focused there, begin to allow the essence of yourself to flow out from that
center on those waves until you can see yourself as a magnificent peacock in all of
your glorious color and finery and pride of being. Give yourself the opportunity to
strut your stuff. Be all that you can be, all of your glorious beauty. Just think of
how the peacock's feathers reflect the light, shimmering blues and greens and golds.
...
Now, in this essential beauty itself you know that you are admirable, you know
that you are attractive, and you know that your beauty is highly visible... Now allow
that projection of yourself to again assume the alignments of the human
configuration, but keep within that feeling of self confidence, of attractiveness, of
beauty. Know that you are admirable... Feel how free it is to be confident, to know
that you are worthy... And because you are that beautiful, loving, worthy being, you
are a clear channel for the powers of the Universe.
So visualize the light of the Universe -- as the sun bathes the planet, so does the
light of the Universe bathe you. And with that openness you can let that light flow
through you, and you act as a filter for that light, so that when it flows from you, it
has your characteristics, it has your expression, it has your love, your individuality...
This is the conduction of the Ego. As life flows through you as light through a filter,
you filter that light in livingness, and you emanate it in your own characteristics.
And you are a true conduit of the power of life flow through you. As that life flows
through you, it empowers you in the capacity of healing and loving.
And in that capacity you allow that life flow to flow from you into all of the areas
around you -- into your family and your loved ones, into your neighborhood, and on
and on outward from you, until the emanation of your individual characteristics
flow throughout the atmosphere. Surround the world, the whole planet, with your
love and your beingness...
And then the return flow comes to you from the sweet Mother Earth, in through
your feet, and you feel stabilized and nurtured. And the beloved life form -- as you
love the Earth so the Earth loves you… And as you love and are loved, you come
together with your like kind, and you find that you love all peoples no matter your
differences… In that loving you are without bias and without prejudice. You are
pure being, loving and being loved, blessing and being blessed… And in that
condition of confidence and belovedness you cannot be other than joyful. So with
the Universal Light pouring in from above and the Earth nurturing, pouring in
from below, you feel that joy gather at the solar plexus where this all began. And
this then goes complete.
Now, let us invoke together "Mercy, love, and compassion are infinitely
reproduced". (done 3 times) Let's all stand and join hands and close with "Let
there be joy". (delightfully sung) So let it be.
(Transcribed by Jnana and Owen)
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