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Session #124 – August 27, 1989
Present: Betty Welty, Edith Durfey, Jean Chisholm, Jeneeka, Jnana Sivananda, Joni Schultz, Myra Perala, Peter Valiton, Sidney Smith and Vivian Rice
After unison AUM’s, Gloria begins speaking very softly:
Gloria: Give some thought to the meaning and purpose of your presence in this circle. Think about where you were before you came into circle. Think about how you have changed since you have participated in the circle. Then give some thought to the future as to how you would like to implement what you have learned, what you have become. Now gently separate your hands with the palms up, and connect your thumb with your little finger. Since you’re not meeting on Friday nights, and last time we met there was so few of you, do you have matters that you wish to discuss this morning?
Joni: Have you been able to get beyond August? (No, and we’re getting down to the last few days of it. The only kind of plan I have been able to even think about, and it’s not a firm plan because I tried to implement it yesterday and it didn’t work, is that Saturdays would be dedicated to getting the book printed. I really feel very strongly that the book has to get finished, whatever it takes, so I went down to the shop at seven o’clock yesterday, and I was there until four o’clock and the project that had to be done yesterday just took that long. So by four o’clock I didn’t want to ink up the press and begin to print. I came home knowing that we were going to meet this morning. But that’s the plan. I’m going to work weekends and try to get that book finished. Since I don’t know what else September holds, I have no idea. I find things are still closing off. People are still coming in to pay bills they have owed me for a long time that I didn’t expect to get paid. I find some mental powers that I didn’t realize I had evolved, which are scary in a way, and yet very gratifying because it was something that thirty years ago I knew was possible, but I didn’t think I could ever manifest. I can’t tell you about all of it, but, for instance, I can determine what kind of sales I can make in a day. This is a practical way to describe it to you. I have a source for rubber stamps. Two young men who are struggling to start a business, working evenings and weekends while they’re employed elsewhere. I am probably the largest dealer they have, and I haven’t had any rubber stamps sales for them for a long time. I just declared rubber stamp orders with this mental key, and I had four orders come in. It’s like you reach into the Mental Realm with the instructions that they’ve given you, and you can access and do almost anything you want to do if it’s within the purview of your Destiny, if it’s not going to take you outside of where you’re supposed to be. Sheariam has been talking a lot about conduction to me, and I asked her for the biographical information that she had promised us. She said that she has been a recorder for this planet’s history for about 22,000 years in this planet’s existence. That’s why she calls herself “Scribe”. While scribes have only been known as such for less than a thousand years, her actual function was to make sure that the circumstances were right on this planet for this planet’s destiny to be recorded, that however this planet shaped its events, those records would be accurate. It’s because she has had the privilege of watching humanity evolve as a Life form on this planet that she understands how the Laws are implemented. It was through that activity that she was determined to be qualified as teacher for Judith’s instructions, to instruct us or to elaborate on Judith‘s material. I can’t recall just exactly how she said this to me. Sometimes I get concepts that aren’t worded, just a whole concept kind of thing. She says that her teaching is so new, because we are apparently her first teaching assignment. She says she gets lots of help.
Myra: She’s also got a brilliant mind. (She attributes it to experience, to being able to access the Mental Realm.) I noticed the way she uses words and ideas. (Well, she’s been in on language development. Apparently she can do this in any language that’s been developed. To her, language is pure. Dialect is almost like cursing. Cursing really is a dialect. She says also, language depends on the level of understanding which is being addressed. So she can be more pure in her language with this group than she could with some other group perhaps, because this group started out at a high level of linguistic function.)
Joni: So that with a more highly refined group she could be purer still, but if she were that pure with us, we simply wouldn’t be able to understand. (That’s why she can’t always answer the questions we ask. It’s not that there aren’t answers, although sometimes I have asked questions, and she has said that evolution has not brought us to the point where that can be fully explained. One of the reasons I have been chosen as a channel is because of the portion of the Mental Realm I was endowed with, the memories I can access due to other experience, not necessarily Gloria’s experience. Also, she told me that in channeling, there is a function of the Desire Body that’s required for certain ones to be channels. For instance, if I did not have in my Desire Body the drive to teach, if lifetime experience of teaching had not been incorporated in this Gloria-self, then she could not use me as a channel, nor could Judith. That is why this particular circle is the kind of circle that it is. The programming in my Desire Body is some they can use. Apparently they use the Desire Body, not the Emotional Body, for channeling. So that’s why channelers differ so much in the information they can bring through. It depends upon what their Desire Body has that the other realms can use. I think I told you that Sheariam had said that when we transition, we are at large in the Realm of Ego, but she and the temple teachers are at large in the Realm of Soul. Some of them are even higher than that. So it’s a matter of education, densification for them. Silverthistle once told us that his bodies are denser than ours. I replied, “If that’s true, then it would seem the higher you go in the realms, the more-dense the bodies would become. Then Sheariam said, “No that isn’t what he meant. He is functioning in the Desire Body so close to planetary manifestation that he can go sub-human, not meaning animal or plant, but sub-planetary.” She said “sub-human”, but I think she meant sub-human planetary form. In that he becomes denser than we are, when he channeled through me, he occupies what she said are the “interstices between the erts of my atoms.”
Joni: Then he does meld with you totally. (Yes.) Myra: He sure didn’t in the beginning. He had a tough time at the beginning. (Well, only in controlling the breathing. That was because of the density.) Sidney: The pure matter of the body can fit in a teaspoon. (True.)
Edith: Does it feel differently to you when Silverthistle comes? (I feel differently after each different person. The channeling leaves me differently, yes. Myra: Do you feel it in a different part of your body? (No. It’s like you feel different when you get out of a swimming pool from the way you feel when you get out of the bathtub.) Betty: Well, then, how does Sheariam operate? (She makes her frequency loop slower. Instead of densifying the molecules of subtle bodies, she makes the frequency loop slower than her normal frequency. If she were to try to speak to you with my vocal chords at her frequency, all you would hear would be a high scream. So she does not actually occupy the atoms of my body like Silverthistle does.) Please explain “frequency loop”. (OK. You know what a sine wave is? If you were to hinge that at the median and take the bottom loop, you make a circle. Apparently in some aspects of being, it’s a loop instead of a sine wave. By slowing hers down, she can open it up so that she can coincide with my sine waves, and then bring my sine waves higher as she brings hers slower.)
Jnana: Actually it’s only a sine wave in terms of time and space. It’s just a loop if time and space are insignificant. (Exactly. I think Enid probably works similarly to the way Sheariam does. (Comments about Enid and her joyous, loving message.) Sheariam has been talking a lot about the Hadiki commitment, which has a lot to do with Conduction. Although she didn’t put it in these words, this is Gloria’s interpretation because it was conceptualized to me. Apparently, in the Hadiki commitment, as it is in all of human experience, we’re tested all along the way for validity. Although it is currently housed in my seeming carbon body dysfunction, it is like an event on the destiny path of the Hadiki entity, to test our commitment to Hadiki. If our commitment to Hadiki is only relative to the attention we get from the teachers, then we have failed the test. That’s the concept I get. If we drop away because the teachers are not right here with their thumb on us, then we’re going to have to find Hadiki at another time when we are more ready for it.) Because that isn’t the idea. (That’s right. The idea of Hadiki is to be totally self-responsible, and love so committedly that we have total trust in each other. It doesn’t mean that we live in each other’s hip pocket. It has to do with love and trust. Love and trust require total freedom. That’s how contractual agreements fail. It’s the lack of the freedom of the partners. One partner gets threatened and then has to hang on tighter and tighter and tighter. Whereas, love and trust say, “I don’t care what you do. I love you, and I trust you, and I trust your commitment to me. That’s what Hadiki is: your commitments to each other to love and to trust. It’s not running away from a tsunami or being prepared for earthquake, or having enough food on hand, or having the teachings. Hadiki really doesn’t have that much to do with the teachings, but the teachings explain it and support it and sort of “house” it. Hadiki is a “beingness in Consciousness.” So when I said that the existence of the circle should rely on loyalty to the teachers more than on loyalty to me, in a way I was wrong. Because loving me and trusting me and accepting me the way I am is part of your participation in Hadiki, just as it is for me to love you and accept you wherever you are and however you function. That’s what Hadiki is.) MyraEach time without judgmental approach or condemnation of any kind. (That’s right.)
Betty: I think part of our problem lies in that you see yourself, but we see you as the channel rather than as Gloria. (That’s quite true. That was some of the stress that I underwent during this past year or two. I became so identified within myself as “the channel” that I sort of lost track of who I am. So, it was really a trial of Consciousness for me when I relinquished the channeling.) Really, all of us in some way have been through some kind of test on our personal values this year. (Descriptions of the personal crises and changes of various members.) Myra:And I think the teachings helped us to do that changing. Enid asked us to look and see what we are going to do with what we’ve been given and make a summary of the confrontations that we’ve been through. (That’s really what our workshop was all about, now that Betty points that out. I didn’t realize that. Betty is an Aquarian, so she sees things in a broader perspective. My Aries sees things only right down here where I am.) I worked and worked and worked on affirmation, and it finally boiled down to one affirmation: “I am valuable.” If I can believe that totally, then everything else just falls away. (Comments on what a great affirmation.)
Joni: I think, for many of us, if we didn’t have the support of the group and the love and support of the teachers, we would not have been given the opportunity to go through some of these things. (That could be true, because we’re never given more than we can bear. We are not going to be given what can break us. We may allow it to break us, but if we understand that it is a benevolent universe, that we are beloved of the universe, we won’t let it break us.Do you realize there wouldn’t be any Universe without us? Once we realize that, we know we can withstand anything that’s in our destiny. It’s up to us to shape it to our greatest benefit.) With each of the people that have been through big challenges this year, look at how much stronger the person is and how much more knowledge each of us has gained, and how much more blessed we feel for having gone through these experiences and come out on the other side. (Had the challenges come earlier, we might have been immobilized by them.) Betty: Looking at other people’s lives, they seem also to be handling crises better than they might have a year ago.
Myra: I think it is true that time is compacting. We are moving faster. Gloria:Yes. That has to do with this Conduction. Our perception of time and space is something like changing a rectangle to a rhomboid. It doesn’t invalidate the space. You still have the space, but it’s a different shape. Time shapes our space. When you run, you can cover more space than when you walk in the same time. We’re talking about the relationship between time and space which has to do with Conduction. Sheariam is really getting anxious, if I can apply that word to her, about that particular Ego Boundary, because, as the planet reaches its point of extinction, whether that is a billion years from now or tomorrow, we come closer to being at large in the Realm of Ego. We would not be planetary any more. We already are in the Realm of Ego, but we are condensed in the Realm of Self right now. But when we’re released from planetary form, we will still be in the Realm of Self, but we will be at large in the Realm of Ego. Time is becoming “distorted” in relationship to the way we understand time. Compaction is not the only thing that is happening. Expansion is happening, too. It’s like when you take the rectangle, and you widen two angles, you narrow two other angles. So where time is compacting in one area, it’s expanding in another. This is distortion in our concept of time, because we can only measure time through the relationship of our planet to the sun. We do not measure time in the relationship of our planet to, say, the Universal Center or the Galactic Center. We don’t realize how fast we are going through space. When you stop to think how big the earth is, and that it rotates on its axis once in 24 hours, we are spinning through space at a terrific rate of speed. (About 66,000 mph.) I think it speaks to our intelligence and our grasp of our relationship to our Galactic Center that the Voyager is only four minutes and 22 miles off of its twelve-year target. Twelve years ago we didn’t know what we know now. We have had space probes out there sending messages back to confirm or invalidate what we know. So we, who are not scientists, have no concept of how time and space really and truly relate to each other. A great deal of how we will continue to evolve in the Ratio between Volition and Consciousness depends on our beginning to grasp those relationships, because the Ego Boundary of conduction has to do with the Ratio between Volition and Consciousness.
Betty: Isn’t that part of what we’re doing right now with Enid’s exercise of the love notes? (Yes. The carbon body is not the boundary. It is only a confinement of a portion of us.) Two things. When you spoke of Ego Boundaries and being at large, Jean mentioned steam, but the image that came through to me is the egg. Right now we have the egg shell around us, but inside of the egg is this tough membrane. Often you get chickens that lay eggs without the shell on the outside. (If they don’t get enough calcium, they don’t form the egg shell.) It’s permeable. It doesn’t hold it shape. It’s easily penetrated in comparison. It’s more like the Ego Boundary. (That may be the way we feel in the Ego Boundary. I think the Ego Boundaries are just as strong as the shell, but the Self identity could be like the membrane.) I don’t really feel like that, although I have felt like that in my life, no boundary or anything. It’s just gone, but I think it’s probably stages. Another thing mentioned was the extinction of the planet. It was my understanding they said the earth will be. It’s just whether you goof and humanity and everything else is wiped off and Life has to start all over. (OK. When I said “the extinction of the planet”, that’s never going to happen in the period of time that we will be Self identified. Until The Absolute breathes in.
Gloria: That’s right. I think that Sheariam was trying to point out to us that we are in a finite Universe. It’s infinite in our perception of it, because we can’t reach the limits of it, but it is a finite Universe. It’s breathed out by The Absolute and will be breathed back into infinity, but the planetary existence for us as a species could come to an end. You see it already has for a lot of Life forms. They also told us that the penalties for misconduct are more severe where they are in their existence than the Consciousness of our actions are while we’re in this planetary form. That has to do with Conduction. I asked Sheariam for a definition of conduction, and she couldn’t really give me a definition that I could understand. The nearest that I could understand the concept that she gave me was through the meaning of Michael, that Life, like a river, flows. It flows through something that gives it shape, which is what Michael means. So Life, flowing through us makes us like a conduit of Life, though we have more responsibility than just a mere channel of Life. The conduit gives shape to electricity, for instance, and sets up certain resistances, etc. We, as conduits of Life, also set up resistances to the flow of Life, as resistance is built up in certain conductors of electricity. Do you follow me? It’s like our Consciousness is the wire that electricity flows along. Our Consciousness is the wire that Life flows along. Our Volition acts as a conductor or resistance to it, or a combination of that. Our ability to live at large in the Realm of Ego is dependent upon our Ratio of Volition to Consciousness, like our ability to be at large as a planetary Life form depends on our ability to understand who and what we are and what gave us existence. The more we understand about the substances that make up our planet, the more we understand about the substances that make up the bodies that we inhabit. The more we understand about the substance of our feelings and our emotions, the more we can understand our relationships with each other. The more we function at the Hadiki Consciousness level, the better we’re going to be able to live at large in the Realm of Ego. I wanted to know what all this had to do with the Astral Realm, because we’ve been told that some Life forms get trapped in the Astral Realm, and to me, that didn’t seem to be at large in the Realm of Ego. She said that it isn’t. She said it is, what you might say, sub-planetary existence because the Ratio of Volition to Consciousness has not been increased to the level that enables that entity or Life form to be “at large” in the Realm of Ego. So it’s a sub-planetary existence attached to this planet. It’s like a holding tank, if you will. You can’t leave the Astral Realm until you come back into planetary form, and bridge that Astral Realm into being “at large”. You have to leap frog the Astral Realm. It’s as if the Corridor of Transition has open spaces in it. You may not go all the way through the corridor. You may “leak out” into the astral Realm if you don’t have the Volition to carry you all the way through.
Betty: If you don’t keep your eyes on the light, on the goal. Joni: I think I got lost. Are you saying your understanding of the Astral Realm is that if someone is trapped in the Astral Realm, that person has to come back into human form, into human life again and go through that life increasing the Ratio of Volition to Consciousness so that at transition that person leap frogs over the Astral Realm? (That’s what she said. It has to come back into a planetary life form, but not necessarily this planet planetary life form.) Now when this person, this being, might come back into planetary life, is this going to be an asset to the world, or might it come back and be a devilment to the world? (It can only come back into a Life form that is consistent with its Ratio of Volition to Consciousness.) “Life form” meaning human life form or perhaps as an animal? (Oh no, human. If its Ratio of Volition to Consciousness has reached human condition, it can’t come back as an animal, because the ratio wouldn’t be right.) OK, so it has to come back in human life form. It’s given the opportunity to increase its Ratio of Volition to Consciousness. If it chooses not to do that, it might go through multiple lifetimes between physical planetary life and Astral Realm? (Yes.) Jenika: And be our murderers and rapists? (Yes.) Joni: That’s why they’re so resistant to help. It’s so difficult to change lives of people who started on that path. Betty: It’s difficult to change my life. I don’t ever think of myself as ever having been evil, really.
Gloria: I got sidetracked. I was addressing Destiny Path. Your Destiny Path begins at the entry to a Life form. So that when you are born into being Betty, and then Betty transitions, if Betty doesn’t make it into being “at large in the Realm of Ego”, if she leaks out into the astral Realm, then Betty may come back as Tabitha with another Destiny Path and the opportunity to develop what Betty failed to develop to make it all the way. But Tabitha cannot be any less than Betty was. You may suffer, if that’s the right word. The events on your Destiny Path may be the kind that can be shaped into suffering or evil. But, you see, it’s up to your Ratio of Volition to Consciousness. It’s up to your Volitional act of Will to determine whether you’re going to be good or bad, whether you’re going to suffer or conquer, whether you’re going to be victim or champion.
Betty: In the life readings… I think they are valuable. In mine I asked what blockages there were, thinking in terms of what have I put up in my own way from making progress. Their comment was that I had taken certain blockages in order to learn from them. (You could have turned those into evil. You could have said, “Now my mother is just not doing what I want her to do, so I’m going to wipe her out.” We have people who are killing their parents because they won’t do whatever the children want them to do. That’s not just fourteen-year-olds. It’s people my age killing their parents, but you can change that. I could have decided that, when my mother needed me, because my mother abandoned me, that I would abandon her. I chose not to shape my Destiny that way. I chose my Fate. The Destiny was that the opportunity was there. She did not have to have the Volition to abandon me, but she chose to. I could have chosen to abandon her. The option was there on our Destiny Paths. I chose not to take it that way. I think that’s what makes the difference between good and evil. It’s the choice you make. No one is thrust into being evil. It’s opportunity and the way you handle it.) Sometimes, however, I think we tend to get pious about what we see as evil. (Of course, we do. Better thee than me.) Sometimes it’s a challenge to those around them. If Hitler hadn’t come out, or these skinheads hadn’t come out and said, “The white race is best, and the blond heads and the blue eyes, etc.” Would we have all sat back if he’d done it justly and worn a long robe and called himself “Pope”, and done the same thing? But he came out the way he did, and it kind of shook us up. We see these skinheads doing the same thing right now, and we’re saying, “Now wait a minute.” (You see, it’s not “There but for the Grace of God”. It’s “There but for my sense of I AM”. My choice. It’s no accident. We tend to see the “Grace of God” as being outside of our power.) Because that way we don’t have to take responsibility. It’s much easier to say, “It’s the Will of God.”
Joni: I was caring for some people who were in a frightening experience. They were sitting in their car in back of a large truck at a red light. They were sitting there waiting for the light to change. All of a sudden the truck started backing up. The bed of the truck scraped over the hood of their car, broke the windshield and kept coming. It stopped before it physically touched them. The light changed, and the truck started to go. The woman got out of the car and ran up to the truck driver and said, “Do you have any idea what you’ve just done to our car?” And the driver had no idea whatsoever. He came back and looked. Well, these people had been sitting there quite innocently, minding their own business. The reason the truck had backed up was because there was another truck equally as large or larger, trying to make a left hand turn, but was unable to do so because the first truck was in the way. It would appear on the surface that there was no reason for these people to be involved in that situation. It has affected them all incredibly. The three-year-old is now carrying around a blanket and constantly asking for a lot of assurance. It would appear this was an innocent kind of situation for them to be in, and they have no idea whether insurance will cover the cost of care for their recovery, especially since they were not physically touched. Can you comment on that in relation to Destiny Path?
Gloria: All right. Here is a Destiny event. Now, those people have the choice to punish the world for their mishap, or they can acknowledge what the true culpability is. The driver of the truck is culpable because he knows the vulnerability of other vehicles in relationship to his. Before he backed up, he should have gotten out and looked. He didn’t. He just backed up. So, there was an event which he chose to handle in a certain way. Betty: He may have checked his rear-view mirrors and thought he was perfectly clear. (But that’s the point I’m trying to make. If you are accessing the Mental Realm as you should be, you would think. So, you are culpable when you don’t think. All right. The individual who was driving the car was exercising a habit of pulling up close behind the vehicle ahead of him. If with Thought, he would have realized that the truck could be a hazard to him. The truck’s brakes might fail so that the truck would roll backward. The culpability would not be on the driver, but perhaps on the mechanic or whatever. You see, you are personally responsible for everything that happens to you, even though culpability does not seem to be apparent. Now my training, which is part of my evolution of the Ratio of Volition to Consciousness, is not to pull up close to big trucks like that, because I know what they can do. If he hadn’t been that close, there might have been the option to quickly turn the car away.) Jnana: Or the truck driver might have seen him in the mirror. (So, you see, what seems to be non-culpability is not so. The responsibility is there. At some point along the way you are directly responsible for every event. It’s the way that you handle it.) Betty: I’ve been in two major auto accidents. I should have caught on, because each time I was on the way to Baptist church, (laughter) minding my own business, driving within the speed limit. One time a drunk said he stopped back at the stop sign, and then pulled out in front of me on a state highway where I was doing 55. You don’t stop that fast. The other one, I was on my way to church. I was pushing, because normally I’m always late, and I looked up and thought, “I’m on time. I am actually early. The sun is shining. I will slow down and enjoy it.” It wasn’t even three minutes later when a car swerved over in front of me, and there was no way, no way I could miss him. A man was killed in that accident. Both times I was driving down the highway, observing speed limits, being attentive, and minding my own business. On some level I had apparently made an agreement. Gloria: OK. Here’s another thing to look at. I went to work for a company that dealt in Caterpillar tractors in Santa Rosa. I had been on the job but about six weeks. One of my duties was to fill out employment forms when a new employee was hired. This young man came to work about nine o’clock that morning, and we filled out his papers. The building we worked in was a two-story building with arc welders and that sort of thing stored upstairs. There were skylights in the floor of the second story painted the same color as the floor. There were no safety devices. The young man did not know about that. He had not been told of that. I was standing at my file cabinet with my arms over the open drawer under one of the skylights when he came falling through the skylight. He had been sent to get an arc welder. Plate glass, arc welder and all came raining down on me. He was facing away from me as he fell so that he sat on my head and slid off onto his feet. Neither one of us was significantly hurt. At least, so we thought at the time. I had a compression injury to one of the vertebrae in my back. It is not in my purview of things to file claims. I just don’t think in those terms. I don’t sue people. I don’t make claims against their insurance. It’s just not the way I am. So I was off work for about three days, and they paid for a physical to be sure that I wasn’t seriously damaged. Now, in this day and age that would be the basis for a claim for permanent disability. I learned to heal myself, and because I have learned that, I have healed myself of a lot of things. Had I chosen to go the medical route, take pills for pain, do the chiropractic thing all my life, I probably at this point, would have osteoporosis, and be completely bent over. As it is, I learned how to keep good posture. I learned how to flex that part of my spine. I have not allowed the calcification of the vertebra. It’s still split. The disk is still compressed. I know now that when that begins to hurt, I’m doing too much, so I let up on myself. I do flexing exercises on my spine. When I don’t pay attention to that cue, I come down with a “cold”. That’s just the way I handle it. It’s not that you are an innocent victim. You are never an innocent victim.
Jenika: I have a question along those lines, about how you handle things. As you know, I’ve been trying for years to make peace with my mother. You know she addressed her birthday card to me as “Occupant” (restrained hilarity). The only contact we have now is sending birthday cards. My father’s birthday is coming up next week and then my mother’s. I am to the point that I have this decision to make. It’s along the lines of Destiny. Every time I reach out I get stabbed. As much as I try to brush it off and laugh, it hurts, and I go back into that old stuff. (You do the emotion thing.) It would be nice if I could cut that off, but I’m just not able to. So, I’m at the point now where I either continue with the birthday routine, and they call me up then and it’s nicey, nice or stab, stab, stab. Or I can cut it off completely, because it doesn’t seem I’m doing any good by continuing to try to reach out to them. (But you are. “Love thine enemies.” “Force meets force.” Gentleness wins. Even though you can’t see the win, it’s there. It’s like water dripping onto a rock.) Myra: And think of your next lifetime. Jenika: I am. That’s why I have this decision to make. (Look at it this way. You send them love, a loving card, a loving thought, a loving feeling. When the pain comes back, turn your back to it. You know it’s coming. Just don’t pay any attention to it. It’s not your problem. You have done the right thing. You have planted the right thought in the Mental Realm. Every time you accept the arrow and you hurt, you invalidate that positive, loving thought you have put in there.) So keep sending the cards, thought and love. Myra:What makes the pain is your thoughts. You could say, “Mom has a problem, but it’s not going to get to me. (And every time you condemn her for her behavior because you’re hurting, you have invalidated your positive action.)
Joni: Let’s get to a very practical point now, and have Jenika talking to her mother on the phone after having received the birthday card and making nicey nice and starting to stab. What behavior can Jenika bring out at that moment? Myra: Well, Enid told you, and you did it, and it worked. Just keep doing that. Jenika: I haven’t heard from her since. She had called me up and asked me what my problem was. I told her I didn’t have a problem. (Wonderful!) Betty: Remember, though, that your mother feels rejected because she spent time and everything selecting a name for you which you threw out. That hurt, so she has pain, too. Myra: She hasn’t allowed you to be who you are, but that’s her problem. Jean: Let me share something that you can do. This works. Put a shield on. Take a pin and put a shield on, and know that it is going to hit there, and it isn’t going to hit you. It’s surprising how sometimes this kind of thing works. During a stressful time, I put on a starfish. I had learned that a starfish holds on, and as long as it holds on, it wins. I have a suggestion. A thought just came to me. Keep an amethyst by the telephone. When your mother starts sending barbs, just hold the amethyst close to the telephone.)
Betty: Let me share. My brother lives in Arizona. On the trip I made back to Oklahoma and around, Roger wanted to see the place as he had never been there. But I said, “Let’s skip it”, because the last conversation I had with my brother, he hung up on me. We were discussing mother coming up. Before that, he had felt she should never leave the retirement center, but he flip flopped. She came up and spent not the ten days he affirmed, but six weeks. He yelled at me because I wasn’t willing to take my mother for ten days, and hung up. But on the trip Roger said we should go by. I suggested, “Let’s say it’s too hot” and other excuses. Finally, I agreed we would go. “I will spend over night, and that’s long enough.” We agreed on that. At the last minute I finally wrote to say we were coming, and I called the day before and said we were coming. When we got there, my brother hadn’t softened, but what I discovered is that he is dealing with fear about Mother. Mother is at the stage where she should go to intermediate care, but he says, “I am not going to put my mother in that.” Mother said to him, “You’re going to put me in there,” He replied, “No I’m not because you’ll hire a two-bit lawyer and have me kicked out.” That’s not possible, but he is afraid to deal with it. I discovered that he’s very nice. He brings mother up to his place for a week at a time. When he does, he says, “I’m going to be patient with her.” That lasts for about fifteen minutes in the morning. Then he starts yelling at her, walks out the door, and leaves my sister-in-law to take over. He never deals with mother. But he has all the answers about what I should do. I felt very compassionate to him, when I was able to open up. I think now I can even tolerate his yelling at me, knowing of his fear. You neutralize the power another has over you when you realize where they’re coming from. It usually is a point of fear or guilt. You neutralize that power.)
Edith: I have a situation where I could use some help. My sister is getting weaker. Sometimes I feel as though I can’t go on with this, the tensions, etc. One thing that bothers me is that when transition comes, and if I turn my sister’s care over to someone else, I don’t want to be responsible for her crossing over with bitterness, feeling that her kids rejected her and threw her out. But maybe she feels that anyway, because I do get kind of nasty sometimes. In crossing over, what do we do most to help so they don’t bring some of this garbage back with them, if we can indeed help them purge it? Is this our responsibility? It is something that is weighing on us, if we take it on. (That’s the point: taking it on. It is not your responsibility to take it on. It is not your responsibility to help her purge her feeling about her kids. The only relationship any of you can work on is your own relationship with another individual. You can act as a counselor if that is possible, but if a person is too far gone in their physical disability that their total mental capability is wrapped up in physical survival, there is not a whole lot you can do to help them resolve unresolved problems with other people, only with you. You can only do that through deed. Your words are ineffective because they are not heard. It’s deed and your thought that you put in the Mental Realm that works. Even though you explode at her, all of the loving care that you give her is planting those thought forms in the Mental Realm, whether she is responding in a positive way or not. The only way you invalidate what you are doing is in allowing yourself to respond with hurt and guilt because she is not doing what you think she ought to do, mentally, emotionally, or physically. If she has a problem with her children’s rejection, you cannot resolve that problem for her, and it’s not for you to take on. (Joni asks about amethyst.) It would be a good idea to have amethyst in her room.) Jnana: Are there a lot of purple colors in that room? (Or how about green? Purple and green are the two healing colors.)
Edith: I want to say the invoking is great, a great help. Sometimes she gets wondrous benefit from it. Once she got a surge of energy that permitted her to get up to go to the bathroom. She said she would not have been able to without our invoking. It’s incredible sometimes. Myra: Can’t you see the angels holding her up. When you invoke the angels come. (But you have to want it. She might have been paying lip service when it didn’t work.)
Betty: One thing I learned from one of those accidents, the one in which the man died… He was a Jehovah’s Witness, and they do not believe in blood transfusions. The trauma that stayed with me through that experience when they took us to the emergency room, my injuries were comparatively minor, but he had not been wearing a seat belt, when he hit against the dash board, and it ruptured his spleen. The doctors and nurses were screaming at him about why he didn’t want a transfusion. He was so far gone that he couldn’t hear. My teeth were chattering. I was shivering the whole time. Finally, I got hold of a nurse and asked, ‘Is he going to live?” She said, ‘It’s doubtful.” She told me their religion prohibited transfusions, and he surely won’t live without one. I asked, “Is there any chance he will live if he gets a transfusion?” She replied, “It’s doubtful.” So, I said to her, “Then why don’t they leave him alone and let him practice his belief system?” I think that was the most important thing for me to learn there: how other people wanted to take over and make decisions for his family which might not change the course of events at all. But they wouldn’t give them the right to practice their belief system. It was the medical personnels’ fear system. They knew these skills which might not even work, but they wanted to practice it to save their face, so they could say, “I did everything.” This is what I learned from that: sometimes we’ve got to let the other person die. We’ve got to let the other person wallow. We’ve got to let the other person do their thing. That’s part of their learning, and we’re trying to take that away from them. That’s the most difficult thing. I hooked into mother again and I thought, “Oh, it was the only hook she could use.” I think that she’s totally depressed and dependent. I tried to be cheerful, but I cried. I went to Roger. I had to intercede. I need to talk to them about intermediate care. A few days later I was working at the post office shoving mail, and the thought came through just as clear: “You’re interfering again. Leave it alone.” I think this is so important, because the hooks change. I was supposed to be a savior and come in, but we’ve got to let each person deal with their own responsibilities. They have to learn to ask for our help. Letting people take their own responsibility is the best thing for me. (I think for all of us, particularly since we come genetically from centuries of Christian ethic, of the Good Samaritan. We’re always supposed to be self-sacrificing and help the fallen. You know we’ve got all of this code built into our memory cells, and we’re having to overcome that now and move toward self-responsibility and letting the other guy be responsible for himself. I think that is one of the hardest things in the world for us to do. It is one of the things that the western world can’t understand about the eastern world. The eastern philosophy is that if a baby falls in the Ganges, you let it float down the river. You don’t dive in and risk your own life to save it. It’s Karma. We think, “How callous. How can they do that? How can they let an innocent little soul float away in the tide?” We’re just not culturally programmed to understand that kind of detachment.)
Jean: I had an experience this week end. I’m getting the tuning fork. (Ed. Note:Tuning fork was an inner vibration Jean felt when something “rang true”.) I have a young friend that has a mother with two children including a fourteen-year-old boy that I’ve mentioned before. She came to me completely at an end. I experienced some of her frustration, because I tried to find some place that there could be a respite between her and the boy. Unless a child has really done something that can put him in jail, there is no place. There was no place that would take him, but it was really necessary that they be separated. So, he is with me. The weekend has been really incredible. I talked to him quite a bit. I was really almost brutal with him. I told him that nobody wanted him, and it was he who had brought everything into his life. I took a horseshoe magnet and a feather and mixed up some stuff in a bowl: flour, some tacks, tea, needles, rubber band. We identified what the feather and the magnet, each picked up. What they didn’t pick up was the rubber band which was the unity. They could have picked it up if they had the right stuff to do it with. I applied a lot of what we’ve been learning. At least I tried to apply it. I think that he accepted the fact that he really was responsible, and he was thinking of suicide. I said, “You can do it if you want to, but that’s no answer.” We talked about self-esteem, and that the first thing was for him to get a work license. Well, he couldn’t even move to make the first step and get the phone book. It took fifteen minutes of waiting for him. I said, “You have to take a little step.” Then finally, half an hour later he had made the phone call and found out that he could get a work permit. He was trying to get his mother to do it, thinking it was her fault. Finally, I said, “How do you feel now that you’ve arranged to get the permit yourself?” He felt much better. It was almost like a dam had broken, but it took a lot of time and patience. It was unplanned, but I had dinner for five men that night. All they did was talk about work, work ethic and how much it was being planned. I had explained to him that you don’t settle things with your fist. So, after dinner, we went to see the movie “Uncle Buck”. In the film, a fellow hits someone in the face and knocks him down. When he gets up, bang, he gets knocked down again and everybody cheers. Fine choice of movies. When we got home, I told him he had a choice. He could go to meditation with the women, or he could stay and work with the men. He made the choice to work with the men. Today he had the choice of sitting and watching television or digging a ditch, so he had another job. It seems that there has been some guidance throughout this. Now he looks like a different boy. What this all boils down to is that there is a crucial need for a respite for single mothers. I was really brutal with him. I told him, ‘Nobody wants you. I really don’t want you, myself. You have to make me want you.” Now when I hug him, he returns the hug.
Betty: It’s like a ripple. It starts there and goes on and on and on. Like when Peter learns to manifest, we can all manifest. So, you don’t know how much of a ripple you’ve started for others with the breakthrough here. Jean: Dr. Butler said, “We all know how much it takes, but we don’t know how little it takes if it’s done at the right time.” That really helped me this time. I offered to take him from Friday to Sunday night. I defined my space very definitely. I knew I could do that much, and I didn’t commit for any more. (There’s an example of time determining space. You have that privilege. That is an innate right, for you to declare your time and space, and then you compromise with the people that you are working on relationships with. But if you start from that premise, that it’s your privilege and your right to declare your time and space, then we get away from this business of guilt. But if I want to control you and I can make you feel guilty because you’re not getting into my time and space, then I win.)
Peter: That applies to me right now. I can’t take care of Phyllis. It’s a shame ain’t it? You’ve got to do some things for yourself. I need time for meditation. I need time for me. Edie needs time for herself. Her beloved sister is cordially invited to take responsibility for her decisions and consequences, whether she wants to stay or go, either way. She’s got her “druthers”, same as Phyllis does. Neither one of them is apparently eager to contemplate the idea at all. (But if you make the choice to stay, then it’s your prerogative to deal with the consequences of that choice, not make someone else deal with the consequences of that choice.) Myra: (Speaking to Peter) Because your life is definitely impacted by her choice. Betty: That’s what medical doctors are doing all the time. They’re keeping people alive, and then they don’t have to deal with the impaction of that choice. (It’s like the “pro- lifers”. They don’t have to foot the bills. They don’t have to help raise that child that can’t help itself.) Myra: And the child that isn’t wanted. (What they are not realizing is that the thoughts of the mother help shape that Desire and Emotional Body, as well as the fetal body. Rejection is probably the most damaging of all emotions. So, if a mother has rejected the child that is in her womb, and she can’t eject the child until gestation has completed, the child is living all those months imprisoned in rejection, increasing the burden.)
Jean: I think the thing that got to this boy was when he realized that I knew what rejection meant. (Yes. A person that is rejected is absolutely convinced that no one else in the world has those feelings or could possibly understand how it feels to be rejected, unloved and depressed. It’s only when you begin to understand that everyone else has the same sense of inadequacy, the same sense of helplessness, the same fears and guilts and negative drives that are holding you back. It’s only when you begin to understand those things that you have some sense of equality. “I’m just as good as that person. That person feels just as badly as I do. That person is no more confident in our relationship than I am.” It changes your whole mode of interacting with that individual when you begin to understand that person is just as afraid of you as you are of that person. When you go through all the other drives, it’s the same thing.)
Betty: Or when you realize that when you hear someone else talking and you keep thinking, “Why can’t I be like that?” Then you find out from studying with Gloria that he has a whole different set of planets and he comes from exactly the opposite direction. (Right. Isn’t our uniqueness the great thing? “Viva la Difference”! Why do we feel like we have to be like everybody else? Conformity is a trap, and Singularity should be our goal.)
Jenika: I have a question about the fetus that comes into the body when there’s knowledge that a choice may be made to physically reject them. How does that fit into the scheme, since there are no accidents. (Remember that the fetus is not necessary claimed at the moment of conception.) Betty: Maybe not even until after birth. (That’s right. Physics takes precedence at conception. Sometimes there are conceptions at the behest of the incarnating entity, when the parents are programmed to produce a fetus, and those cannot be aborted. The abortion is diverted in some way. In this day and age, you wouldn’t make it to the abortion clinic, for instance. Maybe the circumstances of your life. Maybe you have a flat tire, or who knows, maybe you just have a change of attitude.) I have a friend who got pregnant on her honeymoon, and had three other children, four altogether. With every single child she was using some form of birth control that the doctor assured her was infallible. When she was pregnant with the last one and really depressed, I told her “The world needs children like yours, and parents like you.” She said, “Thank you. I needed another perspective to look at it.” (We don’t realize how often our accessing the Mental Realm puts us in the circumstance in which we find ourselves. We’re not that aware of subliminal communication yet, but it is transpiring on a regular basis, and it’s all part of this change in relationship between Time and Space. It’s part of this critical period of planetary evolution.) Two times, recently, an old person has come into the post office to buy stamps, and I stopped to say, ‘How are you today?” Both replied, “Not very well. I just got back from the doctor, and I have cancer.” They obviously needed somebody to talk to. There must have been subliminal communication going on because I said it in a manner that they felt open enough to talk to me, and they said it at a time when I could take time. I had other things to do, but I could take time.
Myra: In last Tuesday’s paper, there was an article about how the medical world has discovered the great impact and import of meditation and consciousness in regard to cancer. (Yes. Drs. Simington and McGeary, who worked at Travis Air Force Base with meditation on cancer, now have a clinic in Phoenix.) Sidney: McGeary is with A.R.E. Myra: Before, Simington was thought to be a “nut”, saying that cancer could be treated by meditation, but now the medical world has discovered that it really does work. (They’re coming back to knowledge of the middle ages, where they really understood the mind does a lot to control the body. Now, the medical profession is dependent upon the fact that we don’t know that.) Betty: So is the religious profession. There’s a workshop being held in Seattle based on what joy and fun can do. (Re-creation). Yes. It’s all MD’s and PhD’s, and I think Simington was one of them. It was based on fun, the inner child. They play group games. It reminded me of your workshops, the games we played, and the fact that we were dealing with the little child. Myra: And realizing how important it is that our little child feel involved. (Lots of our problems stem from the fact that in our society the inner child is rejected. We have to be adult. Being responsible doesn’t have anything to do with being adult. Children can be perfectly responsible for themselves. Our culture has taught us to believe that being “childlike” is “childish”, and there’s a considerable difference. Our religious background has taught us that the god Bacchus is an evil god. We need to know that there are lesser gods of play and joy and fun, and that sort of thing. We don’t have to epitomize them as “The” god. They’re just another manifestation of Godness, and we don’t make them idols.)
Betty: I was talking to a friend who is in counseling because she was an abused child. She has trouble accepting her “little child”. She is angry with and blames the “little child” because it accepted what was happening. I think maybe this is what we do. As little children, we make decisions based on survival, and then later we get angry at this “little child”. Myra: Or maybe it’s the “little child” that’s doing the anger. Betty: Yes. Sometimes it’s very hard to get in touch with the pain of that “little child”. We’d rather not even look at the “little child” and that pain. It’s very complicated.
Edith: Do the temple teachers teach us after we go through the Corridor of Transition? (Oh, yes. They told us that once we enter the temple Consciousness we stay in it forever, as long as we are human, I guess.) Jenika: Why were WE chosen? (We presented ourselves to be chosen.) Betty: Why did you join the circle? Sidney: It’s a destiny path choice. (The opportunity was to be offered you, and you wanted to take it. You could have refused it.) Jenika: That’s right. I’ve given the teachings to several people, and they just don’t connect with it like I do. They don’t see what we see. Joni: Which probably explains why I came out here to go to school and have remained for ten years because I was to be a part of this. (Yes. There’s another case of Time and Space. If the event, the opportunity, is to be presented, your guides will help to make those choices that will bring you to that place at the point of time. Like the people in the car behind the truck. Their choices brought them to that time and place. It’s how they handle it from there that makes the difference.)
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Message from Enid:
Gloria: Last night Enid gave me a message for the circle this morning. She said she will return as soon as my body is able to withstand her force. She wants you to think about how you felt the day she accepted you as a pilgrim. She wants you to fulfill the assignment that she gave you about “love notes”. That is not to be just a one-time thing, but it is something that you are to begin to practice in your mind, in your meditations, that each day you give mentally a “love note” to at least one or more of the circle, so that thought form goes into the Mental Realm and becomes a blessing to that individual about whom you are thinking. She says as you do that she will come to you. You will know her presence, first by a warm feeling on the very top of your scalp, on your Crown Chakra. She says she will be placing her hand over that area, so that as you pass that thought of blessing and love to one of your sisters or brothers, it becomes amplified through her force, and in that way she continues to work with you as a pilgrim, and with the one that you bless as a pilgrim. Eventually you will come to where, through that process, you can send your blessings benevolently to people who have asked for your help that do not participate in the circle. This is opening neurological pathways for you to become telepathic and consciously and deliberately participate in subliminal communication, which is right now your prime obligation insofar as your initiation is concerned. All of your activities in this regard are to be performed with joy and the feeling of song and dance. She said it’s through the feeling of dancing particularly that she can move through the human condition, that the body of the recipient with whom she works will respond attitudinally as a dancer responds to music. This expression of love and joy that you direct to one individual will be manifest in all of your activities. As all of your activities become permeated with this feeling, with Enid’s force, you become a blessing wherever you are and at all times. You take yourself further into that level of the Wheel of Karma that Sheariam has called Thought. Your mental activity becomes real Thought and not just information processing. Now, as you hold your thumb against your middle finger, Enid says that she will come to each of you. She’s here now. I feel it. You will begin to feel a sensation. I’m not sure how your sensation will feel to you. To me it’s like an excitement, a thrill that runs down my arms and becomes focused in my finger tips. As this happens, she says you will become very aware of the rhythms of your body, the heart beat, the pulsation of the blood in the veins, the breathing. She’s leaving now with love and joy and blessings. Bring your palms together.
Jean: I knew she was going to come. I wasn’t surprised. (I didn’t know whether she was going to manifest this morning or not. She did come last night and gave me a message for you, but I didn’t know what might transpire as I began to give you the message. I find myself quite hoarse for some reason.
Last Edited 3/23/19
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