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Session #135c – May 22 - 24, 1992
Gloria’s Circle (continued)
TENTH ANNIVERSARY RETREAT
FRANCISCAN RENEWAL CENTER, PORTLAND
PETER: The way I see it then, I move beyond Will into Motivation, into Wants
as against Needs. Then I go to Thought and then I'll be able to tune in directly to you. Is
that correct? (T: That is correct.) By making the choice to satisfy a Want, I am stepping
forward, am I not?
TEACHER:If indeed you know for certain and sure that your Want is not a Need
and is not motivated by erroneous Motivation. Be aware of what mobilizes you to action.
PETER: My mobilization for action is my goal -- is looking at the goal where I
want to be. (T: Yes.) Thank you. I've got it made in the shade. I appreciate that.
TEACHER: One of the reasons that you require the services of our Channel is
because you do not understand our language. It must be translated through the
consciousness and the intellect of the Channel to speak your language.When you think
in pure thought, language is no barrier. You often have direct input from us, and say,
"OH, it is just my imagination.Oh, I only had a hunch.Something told me.It
came to me out of the blue." You discount us more often than you count us among you.
And so we must impose upon a channel. That is not our choice, it is your choice.
MAXINE: We have certainly appreciated this time that we have had with our
Channel and the Teachers. It has been most important to our lives.
TEACHER: She truly knows that, though her own inadequacies often prevent her
from understanding it.
JENIKA: One of the languages that is so difficult to understand is the language in
dreams that we receive. Can you give me some help in how I can better understand the
messages that I get in my dreams?
TEACHER: If you will take note of the items involved in a dream. What are the
structures of those things that you see in a dream, or the structure of the feelings that you
have in the dream, and relate those to things in your everyday life from the abstract
perspective rather than the concrete perspective, you will learn your own language. (J:
We are looking forward to Gloria's dream workshop.) So is she.
BETTY: A question while we still have the connection. I have been less than
successful in making good soap. I'm not comfortable with the caustics that we are using.
TEACHER: You are a purist in almost every facet of your life which constantly
visits frustration upon you. We are not suggesting that you not be purist, but that you
accommodate that need in you for that by going your own eccentric way. (laughter) You
are singularizing and you are evolving into Specialization in spite of the fact that you feel
inadequate to meet the challenge. Develop your own recipe, and you will have a product
so marvelous that the world will beat a path to your door. Burn hard wood. Prepare your
own ash. Learn how to build your own lye. You must begin with what you have at hand.
Seek out the help of your Indian friends to find the fats that you need.
BETTY: I feel quite fulfilled when I'm working with the Indians. I assume
therefore that this is a good opening for me to learn more.
TEACHER: Indeed it is, for your own specialization. These words are not meant
for anyone here except you.
OWEN: Over the years the Temple Teachers have given us a wonderful treasure
of teachings. We want to be sure that we have done whatever we can to preserve these so
that they may continue on to benefit generations to come. In view of the expected Earth
changes and various problems, I'm wondering if you can give any suggestions on what
we can do, who we can place these with, or how we can best assure that there will be a
continuation, that they won't be lost in the expected turmoil.
TEACHER: There are three other such groups in your western hemisphere
currently facing the same problems that your situation has given rise to. We are working
to bring all of these materials to the same physical depository for protection and
preservation. Guidance will be given as soon as we have made certain arrangements.
OWEN: Other than that our individual preservation of our own records is
appropriate.
TEACHER: For your own use, because when your archive is arranged, it will be
hidden and not available to you for many, many experiences to come.
JONI: Through the archives, will we be able to meet the other groups?
TEACHER: It is possible. It may be only in one or two making connection here,
and one or two making connection somewhere else. It is unlikely that some kind of
enclave will be arranged, but that is not beyond the realm of possibility. It just simply is
improbable.
OWEN: Can you say any more about more specific detail about the Earth
changes, with respect not only to us locally, but the entire Earth?
TEACHER: You certainly demand a great deal of a very limited faculty. For your
locale, you are still under threat of EARTHQUAKE. It is imminent, but you managed to
fend it off with your thoughts of SANDALPHON maintaining the status quo. You may
be able with your own powers of thought and your dedicated effort to fend it off for your
lifetime. Again, you may not.
As foreign thought comes into your midst and colors your thought, one becomes diverted
from one's goals. One gets lost in detail, or diverted by fragmented energies, demands
upon one's time. But that is still the condition in your locale.
OWEN: And the condition in our locale is continuing under Earth's energy
systems that are similar in other parts of the Earth also?
TEACHER: Remember the Earth is an organism. It is an integrated whole. What
happens one place affects all other places. We must withdraw. The body of the Channel
is becoming overheated, and we do not wish to damage. (Many expressions of
appreciation)
(At this point Gloria came out of trance in some discomfort. The group sang "Let there
be peace on Earth". They started singing "Let there be joy on Earth", but Gloria quickly
stopped us, saying "It's too hot. Please let me take a walk down the hall". Edith got some
ice water for a compress, and the big fan was turned in her direction. She indicated she'd
be alright in a minute. It was a hot day. The group reassembled a short time later.)
GLORIA: (Seated in a circle, the group held hands, right up, left down, to pass
energy around.) Close your eyes and breathe deeply. Relax your left hand. Hold your
right hand firmly on the relaxed hand of the person to your right. Now, where you are
firmly holding, you are taking in from that person. I'm getting warm already, so we're not
going to do this very long. We're passing the energy around -- it comes in your right
palm and out your left palm, and goes around the circle and around the circle. We'll take
three deep breaths and then we're going to release hands -- I don't think I can handle any
more than that. (done) OK, separate gently. Bring your hands together and move the
palms together.
It was brought to my attention this morning that I have not instructed everyone in the
group about "closure" and "neutralization". Any time that you exchange energy with
another person, give yourself closure and neutralization simply by putting your palms
together and rubbing them a little bit. It's a natural kind of gesture; nobody even pays
any attention to it. We do it all the time.
In general, after you shake hands with somebody, do this. Don't let them know you're
rubbing them out. (laughter) But our western custom of shaking hands is one of the
worst things we do for ourselves. We let everyone who shakes our hand take energy
from us, and we don't do anything about closure and neutralization. We just go right on
with our meeting or whatever, and we shake the next guy's hand and pass it along.
SIDNEY: Maybe those people that shake hands real limply, are just taking.
GLORIA: You are right on the money. That's true. A good, firm clasp is a
person who is going to give you some energy, or trade energy with you on an equal basis.
The guy that offers a limp hand is a sucker -- he'll take energy.
PHYLLIS: What do we do when we encounter "suckers".
GLORIA: You let go, close, and neutralize.
OWEN: So if you get a knuckle grinder, that's a real benefit.
GLORIA: You knuckle grind back as hard as you can, because you don't want
more than you can give. (laughter)
(Gloria and Gayla both avoid shaking hands.)
GLORIA: My recommendation is be careful whom you shake hands with, and
avoid it when you can. (Comment about the Japanese custom.) They are very smart
people, and they aren't the only culture that does that. The cultures that recognize that
honor is an exchange of subtle energies is really saying "I honor the Divine in you, and I
appreciate you for what you are, and I'm not going to exploit you." You're saying all of
those things when you greet in that way. A handshake is not an honor. It's "This is what
I am. What are you." It's part of our macho society. (Further conversation on how this
was a man's greeting, later adopted by women.)
Let's use our time. I'll tell you what I will do - - I can't go away again, but I can tune in.
GAYLA: We had some discussion on ascension. (Mention of persons thought to
have ascended, or who have apparently disappeared. But what really happens?)
GLORIA: Just because somebody says this is what happened, doesn't mean it's so.
GAYLA: This is my point. I tell them that I can't embrace this because they can't
tell me anything that gives me any valid answers, and besides, I can't find a point to
ascension.
GLORIA: Unless there is some validation for you, handle these kinds of concepts
with care. I am not saying that it's not possible, and I'm not saying that it never has
happened. But I've never seen a UFO either. I have seen something that might have been
a UFO. I'm not saying that such a thing is not so, because I certainly do believe in other
dimensions, because I have seen other dimensions. I have seen people from other
dimensions. I see people in other dimensions -- they are here. That to me is validation.
But they don't talk about ascension. They don't tell me that I should be contemplating
ascension. They tell me that I should be working toward Specialization to help the
human race do what it is intended to do. You can go to the mountain top and sit there and
meditate and let the ants crawl on you -- that may be your thing. It's not mine, and
ascension is not mine either. Peter, you may ascend, darling, and you may take that
wonderful body with you, but I'm leaving mine behind.
GAYLA: Everything that I have read in the transcripts tells me that the body is a
part of this planet Earth and must remain.
GLORIA: That's why they don't cremate it -- leave it behind to serve its purpose
(in the food chain). The body is just a house to live in. If we're supposed to ascend, why
not take our cars and our bills and bank accounts and the whole works.
OWEN: Wasn't Jesus' ascension, if it occurred, more a demonstration of power
and a possibility?
GLORIA: That is what has been promulgated by the doctrinists. However, the
Dead Sea Scrolls now say that Jesus and the robbers that were on the cross with him were
taken down while still alive. That was not the practice of the day to leave crucified
people on the cross until they died. Crucifixion was a means of punishment and it was
supposed to terminate, but if you survived you were allowed to live. So you were taken
down off the cross while you were still alive, and you were put in some kind of a cool
place where the body could either recoup or pass on, whatever the spirit chose to do.
And the reason that the body was not there when Mary Magdalene arrived was because
Jesus had been taken away, not by ascension, but the body had been taken to a place
where it could be healed. And there are records in the Dead Sea Scrolls that go on and
tell about the rest of his life. And he did travel throughout the different continents. There
was oceanic travel. The Phoenicians built wonderful boats.
So what is happening now is a great bru-ha-ha in the religious-philosophical community,
because some of the scholars feel that the church has repressed the translation of these
Dead Sea Scrolls because they don't want their doctrine upset. But the scholars are
insisting, and now there is more translation, and this concept that there was no such thing
as the ascension, resurrection, and forty days in the ascension, that that is philosophical
doctrine.
Of course our Teachers tell us that it is a reality in that it represents what happens to the
human spirit, what we can do, that we are much more than we think we are, that these
bodies are temporal, are temporary. They are only a vehicle for the time being. We are to
live on this planet for this length of time to have this experience and to work out the
ramifications of the LAW OF DOMINANCE. And when we go to whatever that place
may be that we become involved in working out the ramifications of the Law of
Relinquishment, or the Law of Harmony, or the Law of Process -- whatever condition
that is required of us, we will have the bodies to wear under those conditions. So why do
we want to take this condition's body with us and hold us back from maybe going into a
greater experience?
EDITH: Before we leave that subject, I understand that one of the reasons you
take it with you is then you can move back and forth between this realm and the next
realms.
GLORIA: But you can do that without your body. I don't want to haul this one
around. I'm tired of this one. I want something new.
GAYLA: You would have so much more freedom without the body. It's like
wearing a straight jacket.
EDITH: Then I understand that you have to go through the birth process again.
GLORIA: I don't know whether it was in the messages from the Temple
Teachers, or whether it came through in some of the earlier transmissions of over thirty
years ago, but we were told that the process now enjoyed by the human race to pro-create
itself is crude and unnecessary, that there are greater refinements to the process that are
much better.
Remember that Silverthistle said they had sex, that he remembered being a small child.
But remember, that's only one step, like living in America. There's all the world besides
that. ... I don't want this body anymore. I want new adventure.
BETTY: I sure appreciate how far it's taken me, considering all I've done to it.
GLORIA: It's not that I don't appreciate it, but when I have that opportunity to
graduate, or go out the door, or whatever, I don't want anybody stopping me. I want to
leave this thing behind and get on with it.
GAYLA: And you can come and appear here if there is the need. We talk with
the Teachers, and Len can see them, but they can appear any way that they want.
GLORIA: They can appear in a psychosome. Remember the psychosome that the
Teachers brought to us? That's just like another human being. A psychosome is a
thought form person, temporary for one limited purpose.
One could appear to lift you from drowning in the ocean if that's not your time for it to
happen -- a psychosome, an angel can come.
JENIKA: I had that experience. I had a boating accident of which I had a dream
warning three days prior. I was in a swimming pool and I couldn't get up to the surface.
I was drowning because of a little boy with a yellow rubber raft. Later I was rafting on
exactly the same kind of raft. We were out there doing our thing when we hit the only
rock. They told me to hang on to the boat. I make it down into the calm water and I
think I'm doing OK, but I'm not. All of a sudden I feel someone lift me up, and they are
walking with me. I didn't look because I was too exhausted to turn around -- I was out of
it. And I said, "I'm OK, I can take my time." Because if I wanted to, I could stand up.
Because obviously this person was standing up and carrying me. So I just took my time,
and when I got to the other side and drug myself up, I said, "Who picked me up." They
said, "What are you talking about. You were in a hundred feet of water."
GLORIA: Myra and Jean had somebody pull them out of the sand on the coast.
That was a real person. They thought he went to the rest room, but he didn't. You see, he
was so real that they expected him to have those kinds of physical needs.
MYRA: We were stuck after going to the rest room. We invoked, and here this
guy walked over right toward us. He had a long-fringed leather jacket on, a really strange
hat, like a hippy out of the '60s. He came up and asked, "Are you ladies having trouble."
"Yes, we're stuck.I think I can help you. You sit on the hood -- we need some weight
on the hood." So Jean straddled the hood of my little Honda, and he went behind. He
said, "You just get started now and keep going right to the top." We took off, and we
waited thirty minutes for him to appear, but we never saw him again.
GLORIA: I think that you all have had experiences like that, but you haven't had
the knowledge to evaluate them in terms of what they really were.
JONI: I believe that the Teachers have said that there are no "walk-ins". (G:
That's right.) How then does this manifestation of an adult relate?
GLORIA: The theory behind "walk-ins" is that there is a human being that is
gestated in a womb, and the body is born, and the entity takes possession and grows that
body into some kind of an adult, and then doesn't like the job that it has done. So it
abandons the body before the body is ready for death, which then permits some other
entity not having a body, to enter and occupy. That's the theory of "walk-ins". The
Teachers are saying, "That's not possible, because it takes the psyche that grew the body
to perpetuate the body." The walk-in would not have the right psyche. The body would
disintegrate, it would get sick, it would die. It could not live very long with a foreign
entity in it.
BETTY: I took a workshop with Dick Sutfin, and he was supposed to be one of
Ruth Montgomery's walk-ins. And he was asked that question. And his comment was
that he didn't know. He said, "At the time that I was supposed to have been "walked in",
my life had gone to ruin." He was to the point where he was standing on the ocean beach
getting ready to walk in and end everything. He said,"I made a complete mess of it. I
can either end it, or I need help." He decided not to commit suicide, and he said, "My
whole life just turned around."
GLORIA: But you see, that's not another person taking over, that's rebirth.
OWEN: Didn't Netsok give us a session -- I think it was an Easter message on
"resurrection", in which he mentioned that we are all likely to have a point of resurrection
in our lives. (G: Rebirth.) I wonder if this isn't similar. (G: Yes, born again.)
I'd like to ask about the significance of the ceremonies -- I know that the Teachers have
said that ceremony is quite important -- the ceremonies of baptism and holy communion.
Are these important, or are these just ceremonies that the church as adapted to their own
purposes?
GLORIA: OK. They are saying that the ritual is the "icon" of which they spoke.
That the BAPTISM is a physical manifestation of a concept of anointing, of cleansing.
And the concept of "original sin" is not in the manner in which a child is conceived, but
the fact that you are not the ABSOLUTE, you are only a part of the Absolute and not
whole in terms of Absoluteness. And that the action of baptism is simply another
manifestation, as though I were to stand with you and cleanse your aura, or to use
whatever materials the Teachers give me to cleanse the aura. That's baptism too. And
you can have a baptism of the spirit as Sutfin actually had -- when you are born again.
What happens is that the slate is wiped clean. You are given another chance. You've
created all these structures in your SUBTLE BODIES, and then spirit cleanses those
subtle bodies and gives you another chance to rebuild new structures more appropriate to
your fulfilling your own potential.
The ritual of the COMMUNION, the eating of the body and the drinking of the wine --
you do that every time that you break bread with each other. Every time that you share
some sustenance of life with another, you are celebrating communion. You are coming
together. And as each of you are Divine, you are sharing your Divinity. So the ritual of
breaking bread together is extremely important. That's why I insist that we always bless
the food that we eat.
OWEN: Well, the part of that that has bothered me is the "partaking of the body
of Christ and the blood of Christ".
GLORIA: OK. That is the church's icon.
OWEN: The communion as you describe it sounds great.
GLORIA: And the concept of making something "holy", and only anointed
people can bless things is not true. You are an anointed being. You bless the things that
you use in your lives. Bless the bed that you sleep in. Bless the clothes that you wear.
Do it in awareness just the same way that we bless the food that we eat. Don't let the
blessings of the things in your lives be limited to the food that you eat -- bless everything
that you use. And it serves you better; it does the job better, and you don't lose it.
Because, as you bless something, you claim it. You put your stuff, your "aka" on it.
MYRA: Could you talk about marriage in the New Age?
GLORIA: MARRIAGE as we know it today is a financial contract. It has nothing
to do with the human heart's relationship with another human heart. Only western
civilization and the church have brought that about as a means of controlling the
economic situation. Marriages before the church were based upon, "How many cows do
you have?" as opposed to, "How many sheep do you have? Which one of you is going to
get my daughter?" or my son. In some cultures it was the girl's rich father that
determined the marriage. In others it was how much richness does the son have that can
protect and support my daughter. It depended on the culture. Those were contractual
arrangements between families and had nothing to do with whether the people getting
involved with a marriage contract even knew each other.
BETTY: Wouldn't the entities have made a contract to be together in that life?
GLORIA: Maybe. I can't make any judgment. But in the western world now, we
have the freedom to choose whom we marry. The fact that we have illusions about that
contract doesn't change the fact of it. If we contract to "honor, love, and cherish till death
do us part", we have to know in our hearts what "death" we are talking about -- the death
of the marriage, the fulfilment of the contract? Ordinarily we have been taught by the
church and tradition that it is the death of this physical body. The Mormon Church
doesn't even stop there -- when you contract a marriage in this human reality, you're
married for eternity, whether you've got this body or not. So you see marriage is a
contract based on the economic and cultural issues of the culture of which you are a part.
BETTY: We also look at the marriage contract as a contract within ourselves.
GLORIA: That's right. A marriage is legal because it has a paper that's recorded
with the tradition that says this is the way it has to be. That's society's requirement. But
the contract between two hearts is what MARRIAGE is. It is what you vow to do on
behalf of the partner that you are taking. And what is the thought in your mind? What is
the durability of that commitment? How much intention do you hold to fulfill the
commitment that you are making? How seriously do you take this situation? Just
because our legal system enables you to cancel the contract as they declare it, doesn't
cancel the marriage unless you cancel the marriage. Does that answer your question?
MYRA: In a way it does. It seemed that Sheariam once told me that Nestor and
I were working on the new relationship for the New Age, and that our relationship was
different from others, and it seems to be developing into that.
GLORIA: Certainly. You have a different kind of marriage than many people
have. But it is what you chose in each other to do for each other and is independent of
the fact that you have a paper recorded somewhere.
MYRA: We couldn't have made our spiritual awareness progress without the
other -- the agony and the pain we've been through to get to the place we are now.
GLORIA: That's true. That has nothing to do with the piece of paper that is
recorded or the authority granting you the favor of recording that little piece of paper.
MYRA: I see the incredible change that has occurred in our marriage
relationship in the past two years. I wonder if what we are doing is perhaps helping
others.
GLORIA: Of course. That's what they have said to us. Every modicum, the least
little progress that one individual makes towards WANT as opposed to NEED, so you do
it for everybody else. We are interdependent. Interdependence is not codependency.
Interdependence is exchange of strength. A marriage should be interdependency, not
codependency. When someone says, "I can't live without you", boy, get away. They will
eat you alive. You have nothing to give to a marriage unless you are a self-sustaining
individual that has more than you need for yourself, and you can give that overflow to the
other. And then it's free. The jealousy is not there. The possessiveness is not there.
Because the insecurity is not there. If your cup is full, you've got nothing to be insecure
about.
But where there is jealousy and need and possessiveness, then that person is operating
only half full, or half empty, or a quarter or whatever. "I need you. I can't live without
you. You have to fill up my cup." Where does that leave you? Giving and giving and
giving and emptying out and getting nothing in return. Marriage has to be a give and take
-- not 50-50, sometimes it's only ten and ninety, and then you need to tell the other
person, "Please don't ask that of me. I'm in my ten percent today." And the person has to
say, "OK. I'll try to be ninety percent." That's true of any relationship whether it's
friends or parent-child.
Any two human beings enter a relationship when they come in contact with each other.
They may choose to remain in that contract, or they may break it off. But when you
choose to stay, you make a contract, and it behooves you to set forth the terms of that
contract clearly. Enunciate to the other person what you expect of them, because they
may not be able to fulfill your expectations, and you're going to be disappointed, and they
are going to be angry and hurt, and the self image goes down, and things go gunny-bag.
... You'll learn not to ask me these kinds of questions that get me on my soap box.
LEN: We've been told that in these intense times coming up that there would be
and are now energies trying to thwart our efforts. (G: That's right.) Could you say
anything about that?
GLORIA: Wherever you have light, you have dark. OK. On the other side of our
planet right now there is dark, we have the light. Twelve hours from now they will have
the light and we will have the dark. But the planet is a singular entity.
Where you have love and support and giving and generosity and all that good stuff,
you've got to recognize that there is the back side of the issue. Now if you turn the dark
side of your nature to your partner whoever that might be, then your partner is going to
have to work that much harder at self sustaining his light condition.
Alright, as we have positive forces that help us live our lives, we have the teachers of
good intention. We also have their shadow sides. Remember when the Teachers gave us
the Archangels, they said there are some we are not going to give you the names of
because we don't want you using those forces, because you don't know how to handle
them. That doesn't mean they don't exist and impinge upon our consciousness.
And so we need to be aware that those things are there. So we have to really secure
ourselves in our knowledge of ourselves and fill our space with our positive light. We
have to be a greater light in our world to help those who can't sustain their light when the
dark times come. Everything has its day; everything has its turn just as day and night
follow each other.
PARTICIPANT: Can you give an example of what to expect when the dark side tries
to interfere?
GLORIA: My Source has told me, and I have shared this with quite a few of the
Circle. That our physical self will be jeopardized by what they call the "federales". Now,
please, when I say this, don't say, "There goes Gloria's ethnic prejudices again." I'm not
saying that. I'm saying that the people from the south are going to reclaim their land, and
we are going to have to be aware that they are not going to like us very much. And if we
have food stored, they are going to take it away from us. If we have arms, they are going
to take them away from us and use them against us. We have to live in peaceful light,
filling our space so that no one gets into it. One of the physical facts that I have been told
will happen in my lifetime is that we will have to seek safety in the rocks. One of the
things that has propelled the urge I have to move to Montana.
That is the way the "dark forces" will manifest. Not demonic forces. Not somebody that's
going to sneak in behind you and take over your mind and make you a walking zombie.
It will be the people who present the dark side of their own natures -- which to them is
the light side. These people will believe in what they do. They will believe that their way
of doing it is right. We look at Saddam Hussien who is exploiting and oppressing, in our
terms, and being very cruel to his people, but he believes he is doing the right thing. He
has no concept of our belief system at all. He could not understand why we would
interfere with him. After all, we supported him on one end of it -- why did we change
our minds?
OK, so the people who are attempting to exploit or take advantage of you or run you off
your property or hurt you or harm you, they are only doing it according to their own life.
So that's why we are told, don't return force with force. When force meets force you have
war, you have conflict. That's the concept of turning the other cheek. Not that you
expose yourself to another blow -- that's not the point. The point is to meet force with
gentleness and peace, and the slow drip of the water wears the rock away.
LEN: Could you explain something more in the area of mental energy towards a
666 situation.
GLORIA: OK. Remember that just like the legend of Jesus Christ, the legend of
demonic action is a legend. It is given thought form by the many people who believe in
it. If all of us get together and we decide that we are going to produce a physical
manifestation of 666 force, we could sit here and do that. There are people practicing
that kind of ritual. So it becomes a reality. It takes on physical form, and it can act
within the limits of its lifetime, just like our positive psychosome. We call on the angels
of light instead of the angels of dark.
LEN: So they are a reality.
GLORIA: Oh absolutely. They are a reality.
LEN: If those forces exist, I'm not quite sure how they can be offset other than
filling your area.
GLORIA: That's right. If you give them credence, you give them power. If you
acknowledge their existence, you empower them. If you ignore them, you don't give
them any of your strength. If you fill your space with your light, they can't get in. Dark
can't overcome light, but light can overcome dark. That's why our shadow self is a dark
side. It doesn't have the power to overcome the light side. We can turn it around with
our awareness. We can say, "Oh, I want to exhibit my dark side right now, I'm going to
get even with you." Any time that you give in to anger and resentment and hostility and
hatred and rage, those are all things that exhaust you, right? There is no feeding in those
things, because you are exhausting your resources and you are feeding the demonic
powers; you are feeding the dark side.
EDITH: Could you talk a little about the difference between "stuffing", if you
don't give in to anger and rage, as opposed to not giving in to it.
GLORIA: OK. There's a difference between uncontrolled rage and just anger.
That's why it is encouraged in us to be accepting of other people's opinions about
ourselves. Dealing with each other in love -- just because I love you doesn't mean that I
can't say to you, "Edie, I don't like the way you do this or that." You can say, "Well, I
understand that, but I must do it this way to satisfy what I need." Then I have to accept
that from you, but if what you're doing makes me angry, and I present my anger to you in
a way that is not going to hurt you, and you have the chance to respond, you have a
chance for me to either understand why I am angry, to learn how to accommodate the
activity that upsets me, or to choose to not see that, or choose to separate myself from
you. But we call that "civilization"; we call that living with each other in a social group.
You see, we're not meeting each other as cave men. But it's just to say what it is that is
causing negative feelings within you. But if you don't say it, if you stuff it and you let it
become anger, then boom, it blows.
EDITH: Anger is just kind of an accumulation of that.
GLORIA: It's not supposed to be. If you can express dislike, you don't build up to
anger. If you can express resentment, you don't build up to anger.
EDITH: Anger is kind of an accumulative thing.
GLORIA: You're thinking of the expression of anger. There's a difference
between the thing itself and the expression of it. You can love a person dearly, and that
person never knows you love them, because you never tell them. You can build up all
kinds of resentment against another person, and that person be oblivious of it because you
never tell them. OK. You may be so passionately in love with somebody that you fly at
them and you grab them, and they say, "My God, what are you doing to me?" Not that
they don't want your love. They just want it expressed a little more gently.
You get angry at somebody and you blow off at them, and you strike out at them. And
they say, "What in the world did I do?" That's not fair. It's fair to say, "I don't like the
way this is happening. I don't like the process that is going on here," or "I don't like the
end result that your wishes are taking us toward. Can I have some input in this?" This is
especially true of people that are trying to live under the same roof.
BETTY: And yet on the other hand .... (too faint to be recorded)
GLORIA: I can't give you specifics in a general context. You specifically are
working on a marriage that was contracted when the two of you were a great deal more
naive than you are now. You have had all these years of experience with each other.
You've had children together. You have worked together, you suffered together, you
paid bills or not paid bills together. OK, one of you has grown more than the other one.
This is why I say, "What death did you vow to stick it out to -- the death of the person
that you are or were -- person, persona, not entity being -- or to the actual termination of
the vehicle?
When one person outgrows the other person, communication becomes very, very
difficult. Then the person that has grown beyond is required to find some other vent for
those kinds of feelings -- you've got to get them out, because they poison you. And
getting them out at the person who doesn't grasp them or can't accept them is an exercise
in futility. So you need to go back to the EIGHT KEYS for that key of SERENITY.
How can you achieve serenity within yourself that lack of attention or that lack of
cooperation or that lack of agreement or that absenteeism does not put you off center and
generate anger? It is a task, it's a real task... But the Teachers keep telling us, "We didn't
promise easy."
GAYLA: Why is it so difficult for us to recognize the end of the contract?
GLORIA: Because we are conditioned to believe by church and state that the
contract stands until the church or state destroys it, not the individual. And the Teachers
are telling us, "Look to the contracts that you make first. Those that you've already
made, look at the terms that you didn't know were there, and try to clarify them or
renegotiate them. And if it's not possible to renegotiate and things become too intolerable
for you and you cannot maintain your serenity, you may have to renegotiate the contract.
And that renegotiated contract may be to live apart.
MYRA: Had Nestor and I lived that way, we would have scratched the whole
thing -- we wouldn't have reached this next level. (G: That's right.) But it took a decision
on my part to say, "Hey, let's see if we can continue the way we're doing it." And I
worked from my wants.
GLORIA: That's right. That's what you have to do. What I'm trying to say is if
you decide to abandon the effort, don't wrap yourself with guilt about it. If you have
done everything you can within the limits of your awareness, if you have used your
degree of VOLITION to the greatest capacity, and you have to then reduce the level of
your WANTS or choose some alternative -- don't wrap yourself up with guilt. GUILT
only reduces the capacity of the physical body to be an adequate vehicle for you to
accomplish your mission in life.
BETTY: (Question about the masculine and feminine principles.)
GLORIA: Remembering that we all chose to be here in this culture, we have to
deal with those principles as they are manifest in this culture. We women in this room
did not choose to be born in Kuwait -- we're not wearing veils and head dresses and not
driving cars. You men in this room also chose to be here with women of advanced
thinking that were going to progress beyond the hoop skirt and the wigs and run around
on the beach in bikinis. Now some of us please you doing that, and that is that entity's
business. But the rest of you that are trying to fulfill your mission of WANT rather than
sensual pleasure are going to have to deal with the women who are also finding
themselves and filling their own space. If you can withstand the pressure that we put on
you, you will be greater beings, you will move into the THIRD RUNG much more
quickly than the guy that sits on the beach drinking beer admiring the behinds of these
lovely little ladies.
BETTY: In Lynn Andrews book, "The Medicine Woman", she talks about the
"marriage basket". It took me some time to catch on that the marriage basket was simply
saying that if you combine the feminine with the masculine and you have the marriage of
the two, you have complete power.
GLORIA: That's right. And that is the essential secret of marriage. It is not self
propagation that is the secret behind marriage -- that is a side benefit. But the real reason
that women and men make a unit that collects all of the forces of the male and female
principles, when united, together you are the strongest unit of any society. You are
stronger than two men or two women, whether it's in politics or economics or in
humanities. A man and woman who work together in true union of those
feminine/masculine principles represent the greatest power to manifest on this planet.
JENIKA: That's not necessarily a physical man and a physical woman. It could
be a woman with strong masculine and another woman with strong feminine, or with
men.
GLORIA: It depends upon what your goal is. You can disseminate those energies
by getting confused about the principles. Because we all have the YIN and the YANG, no
matter what our current valence may be as feminine or masculine, we all have the other
principle stored like a germ inside. Otherwise the valence wouldn't work. You can't be
purely one or the other because that separates you then from your Creator, from the
Absolute, and that's not possible.
(When you came into this life) you adopted a valence. Just like you adopt certain genes.
You may have a sister and a brother in a family -- they came from the same gene pool.
They were able to select from the same gene pool. They don't look alike, they don't think
alike, they don't represent similarities, they represent polar opposites -- the male principle
valence and the female principle valence. But they have within them the germ that
allows that valence to fulfill its potential. If you didn't have that, you wouldn't have the
fertilization process in the imagination or the mind.
Remember when the Teachers gave us the Divine Germ Cell, a single organism with
equal parts of both principles, but it divided itself by magnifying one or the other
principle, but taking part of the opposite with it. So that when it divided, it didn't
necessarily divide into a female and a male cell. It might divide itself into two female
cells that then divide into two male cells. Those are only valences -- they took the other
principle along... But it's self fertilization. And that's why the Teachers have said that our
process of procreation is crude, not in terms of being disgusting, I don't mean it that way.
It's like the steam engine over a highly technologically advanced internal combustion
engine. Our method of procreation right now is crude (primitive) in terms of what we
have the capacity to do.
OWEN: At some time today are you going to talk about Hadiki?
GLORIA: They didn't talk about Hadiki? (It was not mentioned.) I was told
that's what they were going to talk about. (Several contributed to brief Gloria on what the
Teacher did talk about. At Gloria's suggestion, we broke for lunch with an interim
harvest of dandelions for wine, as suggested by Jenika.)
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(Sunday after lunch)
GLORIA: We have a few minutes to talk about HADIKI, and I know that is a big,
big question mark in your minds. In spite of the fact that we have talked about it for a
number of years, and Sidney put out a wonderful one sentence paragraph that not only
adequately but comprehensively spelled out and delineated it and laid it out for you,
people still say "What's Hadiki?"
Hadiki is a community of spiritual beings who live together in total acceptance and
support of each other. Now, I say live together -- that doesn't mean that we're all going to
go off into the mountains of Montana and establish a commune and live there in
community.
We live in community because we believe in the same principles. We believe that life is
to be lived with joy --that's the primary principle underlying Hadiki -- life is to be lived
with joy. And you are to enjoy. That is, you are the responsible person for putting joy
into your life. Life itself is just like electricity. It's up to you to shape it and mold it and
put into it the value that you're building as you evolve in your spirituality. It's up to you to
make life here on this planet joyful.
You have everything on this planet to start out with to support that effort, but in not doing
that, mankind has built an environment in which we have total negativity, total
repression, we have total suppression -- we have all these things fighting us. Just like we
talked earlier about the 666.The demonic forces get supported and promoted and fed by
living any part of your life in less than a joyful condition. No matter how serious you are,
take joy in it.
You understand, joy isn't all quickness and light and butterflies. Joy is that part essence,
that intrigue with life, that so draws you that you can't let go of it. And in the
gratification of that drawing, you take great pleasure. That's what enjoying is -- it's
putting all of your interest and focus into life, to making it what you want it to be, to
support you in your effort as you grow as a spiritual being.
When you start doing that you begin to say, "Oh, I really want that. I don't have to be
driven by security. I know that if I pursue what I want, then the friendly UNIVERSE and
all of the support system is going to take care of my security. I don't have to fight all of
these negative things -- commuter traffic, 9 to 5, whatever the world of organized
business has to offer -- I don't have to fight that battle unless I want to. If there is
something there that draws you that brings out the best in you, and you're putting joy into
it, then that's where you belong. But don't be driven into that ambience by the fact that
you've got to have that paycheck in the bank. If you're not enjoying it, you're not getting
what you need to get out of life. And that paycheck will not compensate for it.
So, the Hadiki Consciousness is that we accept each individual with whatever it is that
draws him. It is not for us to judge -- you shouldn't be in that commercial world, or you
shouldn't be doing this or you shouldn't be doing that. You should be doing what I think
you should be doing. That's anti-Hadiki, that's the total opposite. Hadiki is "I love you as
you are, where you are, how you are, and to me you are perfect. And I want you to love
me in the same way." And we take joy in that relationship. Consequently, whatever you
want to go after and need my support, you've got it. If you are in true Hadiki with me,
you will support me in my efforts as I pursue my goals. And if we are totally supportive
of each other in that way, how can we be beat, who can get to us, what can harm us?
Does that explain Hadiki a little bit to you?
What are your questions. I realize that that is a generality. You might say, "I realize that
is a generality, but how do I pay the rent?" Hadiki's not going to pay your rent for you,
You're going to pay your own rent. But you may pay it by universal supply rather than
by employer paycheck. I've lived that way for the last thirty years, almost -- I've taken a
couple of jobs in between, but they didn't last very long, because I'm not a good
employee. I don't take joy in being a good employee, so I'm not a good employee, and I
don't last long on the job. But I can do what I'm doing here for ever and ever and ever.
PETER: One brainstorm I got -- focus on the joy of what you want to be. Don't
magnify the negative. If you don't like the way it is, focus on what you want.
GLORIA: And if you say that what I want doesn't exist, hurray! That's going to
make you use thought. You're going to have to be creative, you're going to have to image
it and bring it into being. That's what THOUGHT is, creative thought. Because if you
bring into being what you want, that is making you totally SPECIALIZED. That's
focalizing you into your uniqueness.
EDITH: What do you see for Hadiki if we are not going to be having a circle
regularly?
GLORIA: If we are linked in Hadiki, we will never be separated. There will
always be something, just as the whirlpool brings something from the outside back to the
center. No matter where we go, we will always be brought back to the center. We will
always be together. Contact will always be reestablished. We can never escape each
other once we Hadiki with each other.
EDITH: Is Hadiki open to anybody who wants to Hadiki?
GLORIA: Hadiki is a state of consciousness. It is not a defined thing. It is not
limited to the perimeter of this room, for instance. Anybody who wants to be in the
Hadiki consciousness is Hadiki. And the Teachers have said, "Once you establish that
thread, it can never be broken. It can be stretched to limitless extremes, but it can never
be broken."
MYRA: I've noticed about Hadiki people that they are very happy to support
when someone asks for help, but we're reluctant to ask.
GLORIA: That's in your personality profile -- you're very H and not much V. So,
you've got to learn how to be V. And I'm not saying this from some wonderful place up
here, because if there is an offender, I'm probably the worst. Besides, when I ask certain
people to help me, they say, "I don't know how."
OWEN: That must be one of the reasons they had us set up that listing of what I
would appreciate help on and what I would like to give help with, and a suggested quota
of how much help to give on a time basis. So everyone was supposed to participate.
GLORIA: They started us, and they said, "If you are going to live Hadiki, you
should contribute eight hours a month as a Hadiki activity." (The response was not
overwhelming.) And I'm just as guilty as anyone. We rationalize about why we don't
make the effort to contact, usually fallaciously. But we have stopped doing Hadiki things
together.
EDITH: Could you give this eight hours to people outside of Hadiki? (G: Yes
you can. Sure.)
MYRA: As we nurture people around us who are in need of help, then we are
doing our Hadiki.
GLORIA: One of the things that used to happen, and Myra was much the leader
in this, was that we had picnics, we did a trip on the river. We also had Hadiki parties
where we went to other people's houses and worked in their yards. One of the Hadiki
parties we had made it possible for Jean and Collin to remain in their own home. They
thought they were going to have to live in some kind of a care facility, because they were
unable to take care of that yard. It was just getting so overgrown. At my house you
pulled weeds and you planted a beautiful holly hedge that is just doing splendidly. (Also
Hadiki yard parties at Owen and Maxine's, at Marlayna's, and at Betty's.)
(Gloria had those from California stand up. Though they are too far away for exchange
of yard parties, they would appreciate our correspondence.)
(Gloria introduced Karen Evans from Bend.) She is the author of the picture of
Silverthistle that you have in your book. (As she saw him at our Mt. Hood Healing
Retreat in 1985.)
(We have also maintained a telephone tree to get important messages quickly to our
members.) It certainly helped me, and I'd like to take this opportunity to say "Thank you"
to all of you people who worked on my behalf after Easter. This retreat might not have
happened this way had you not been so powerful in your assistance to me.
VIVIAN: And I want to add a ditto to what she just said, because I have received
tremendous help since I had my car accident last July from all of you. Thank you so
much.
JONI: We have to work on getting your house ready. We can send positive
energy for that. (V: I'd appreciate that too.)
GLORIA: (At Betty's suggestion.) Jean is going to need every bit of our love and
support. And the more joy you can send her, the quicker she is going to heal. She is very
open and receptive and requested help.
(In response to Jenika's request) You can request, "Help me with my vineyard." And we
can start setting up the mental processes so that when that vineyard needs hands-on care,
everybody's there.
GLORIA: (In response to another question) I have all the disks of transcribed
Circles that have been given to me entered into the computer. And I have a means of
indexing it, and I should be able to produce an index for all 800 pages by the end of this
summer. I have also transmitted the disks to Gayla in a form her computer can use, and
she has them in her computer. After the Retreat today, I'm going to show her on my
computer how I'm indexing it. If she can do the same thing on her computer, she will do
part and I will do part, and we will have it sooner.
SISTER UNA (for the Franciscan Retreat Center): I did want to say good-bye to all of
you. It was so nice having you. You can always have this room whenever you come
back. And collectively or individually, we'd be delighted to have you again.
GLORIA: And I want to compliment you and your community on the peaceful
serenity center that you have provided for us.
SISTER UNA: Would we fit in to your program of spirituality?
GLORIA: If you take joy in your serenity, you're part of our community.
SISTER UNA: Thank you for the light and brightness that you bring into this world
where there is lots of darkness.
GLORIA: While we will be sending a letter of appreciation and a donation to the
center, we could also send individual notes commenting on our enjoyment of the place,
how supportive the energy is here, how peaceful their environment is that contributed
greatly to any success we have enjoyed. (They also have a "wish list".)
Sister Una will also be getting a copy of our Meditations book and a copy of Eight Keys.
With respect to indexing, we are working on the Saturday night sessions first. Tuesday
and Thursday sessions will eventually also be incorporated into it. I am going to try to
get the Teachers to fill in the blank spaces. (Gloria and Gayla will be working with the
transcripts that have already gone through some editing by Jnana, Owen, Vivian, and the
Friday night study group, and are correcting anything else that was missed, while they
produce the index.)
I am incorporating in the Index ideas that may be conveyed that are not expressed as a
word in the text. Concepts will be indexed and cross referenced. This is not a
concordance, but an index of concepts and ideas.
In the last 20 minutes, I would like to hear from you, did you set a goal, did you make a
commitment, and did you set yourself a plan? Did we achieve our goals that we aimed
for?
I am available to help with these. I would appreciate your using my 695-7668 number,
not the 694 number. I have an extension in my bedroom and one in my office.
(About goals) In general, I would hope that out of the work shop you have discovered
from the trait pairs some dominance that takes precedence over its other half, and that
you have said, "Alright, I am going to learn how to deal with things in an orderly manner,
or more in depth, or whatever to balance the other side." Not that you are going to do it
that way all the time, but to take time out once in a while to do something that way so
that you maintain the balance.
Those of you that have any kind of an occupation that requires you to write all day, and
you are right handed, you know that by the end of the day the right side of your body is
very lacking in energy, and you are very unbalanced, and it takes you some time after you
get home to get some balance back again to where you feel like a normal person again.
Alright, if you were able to write with your left hand, and through the day you did some
of that, you would keep the balance going within your body.
For one example, I worked once as an inventory clerk, and during annual inventory, there
are pages and pages and pages of nineteen cents and fifteen cents and everyone of those
has to be entered. Well, I learned to operate my adding machine with both hands so that
when one hand got tired, I could do it with the other. Otherwise I would never have been
able to get the job done. That's an example of how you might use that other dexterity, but
when it came to normal routine, I didn't have to think as hard when I did it with my right
hand, so I usually did it with my right hand. And that was OK. But I knew that I could
always transfer whenever I needed to create balance.
The same is true of those personality traits. There will be times in your lives when you
get very overbalanced in, say Result orientation -- I've got to get this done, and I've got to
get that done and something else done, and gas up the car and pick up the mail, etc.
Pretty soon you are way out of balance. And you say, "Wait a minute. When I go to the
post office, I go right by that beautiful rose garden. I'm going to stop and spend a minute
in the rose garden." That's Process as opposed to the Result. Do you see what it does to
the body energies when you stop long enough to even smell the roses?
So, I would hope that you have chosen one of those inequities in the way that you usually
do things, and you set a goal: "I am going to increase my use of that faculty so that I can
bring more balance into the way my personality expresses itself." Alright, that's a goal.
"I aim to do that once a day (or week or month) ...." That's an aim, a plan. "And during
that once a week activity, I am going to implement my practicing to develop this trait by
..." It might be by improving my way of using Process by taking time to enjoy getting
from here to there, instead of missing the center and having only the starting place and
the end result.
Alright, now when you are talking about your Destiny Path, you have a list of things that
you can extrapolate from. You can say, "Well, that's not exactly it, but I feel a connection
with that because it relates to something that I know about myself, or don't know about
myself." It is up to you to record your thoughts about achieving your individual goals.
It's for you to decide: "My strength is in my ability to see things through to the end." or
"My strength is in my ability to grasp the broader scope." or "My strength is in my
ability to be analytical enough to see what the components of the situation are."
OK, you find those strengths in yourself, and you build on those strengths. You
recognize negative or counter-productive traits in your South Node -- those Karmic
things that you come in with, the issues of control, issues of arrogance, issues of self
aggrandizement, issues of top dog, whatever it is. And you say, "I'm going to relinquish
those, and in order to do so, I am going the shape the next event in my life that
incorporates my propensity to be like that, this way. I am not going to play competition.
I am not going to "one up" whomever I am talking with. I am going to be supportive,
empathetic, understanding, and calm and peaceful, and centered and serene." You set
these things for youself. That's the way you’re going to shape those events.
And the goal -- where I'm going is the North Node. I want to develop those things in my
North Node that I do not manifest right now. You've got those positive adjectives there
that you can expand and extrapolate on. For example, you can say, "Alright, I have a
Gemini North Node. I need to develop versatility. I need to develop flexibility. I need
to work on being imaginative. I need to learn how to gather data to put together a
presentation of an idea -- I don't know how to tell other people how I feel. I don't know
how to tell someone else how to do something, even when they ask me." That's what the
Gemini North Node means, and that would be a goal to be striving towards. Does that
help you understand what we have accomplished here?
Your Sun Sign shows you what you are. Those characteristics in your Sun Sign -- you're
never going to be anything other than that for this lifetime. So those are appropriate to
you, so it's up to you to show the light side of those traits and not the dark side. It's not to
repress the dark side, but find a way to express what would be negative positively.
Again using myself as an example: My capacity for explosiveness, for sudden blow ups.
OK, I'm working on that. I'm trying to turn that into a sudden spurt of joy. An "Oh
goodie!" not "Oh my God!" That's my goal. That's what I'm working on. And that's the
kind of thing that you can do. It's not that I can be other than explosive -- I can't change
that. That's what I am. I can change the way I do it, the way I express it, the way I use
that.
I want a picture of the group. This may be the last retreat that I have the pleasure of
putting on. (said with emotion)
GLORIA: This is it, folks. I love you all, and Hadiki.
OWEN: Before we break up, I want to say in return, on behalf of everybody
here, particularly those of us who have been in the Circle for quite a few years, we are
greatly appreciative of your dedicating ten years of your life into changing our lives and
adding new dimensions to living, making the whole thing a much more interesting
process and much more progressive, and we sure do appreciate it.
GLORIA: It's been a joy to me, and I appreciate the opportunity to have grown
myself through the encounters that we've had and the privilege I've had of connecting
with the Teachers. I would not have connected with the Teachers if it had not been that
Myra was trying to satisfy a want or need of a couple of her lady friends. She said, "Yes,
I know a medium that I trust." And she called me and asked me if I would give a sitting.
And we had so little expectancy of that sitting that we didn't even set up a tape recorder.
That's why our sessions start with Circle two. It will be ten years on July 26.
(Gayla and Len took pictures of the group, and away we went.)
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