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Tuesday Session #12 – April 19, 1983
Gloria’s Circle

Present: Nellie Yerex (hostess), Russ Braden, Karl Lofquist, Reta Mae Vogt, Peggy Muldoon,
LaMar Bell, Lillie Able, Lillian Dawson, Bill Teppola, Gloria Ruth Rivers, and Scribe.

SCRIBE: I am the SCRIBE and Historian of your Temple. He (Silverthistle) has given me
permission to speak with you this night. As you know, contacts of this kind are so rare that we
cannot afford to sacrifice any of them. Therefore, I come this night perhaps to speak with you
about some things of interest. It is my job to take records, to preserve the records for all time to
come. Thus each of you are inscribed upon my book.

But possibly of interest to you would be the early beginnings of this planet which you
inhabit. Many of you have had wondering thoughts about PRE-HISTORIC TIME. The actual
birth of your planet will be described to you by Judith in due time. It is not for me to describe these
wondrous events. I merely keep record of what transpires as growth proceeds.

(EVOLUTION) In your consciousness at this time there is certain knowledge of
evolutionary conditions that is probably best described for you by Mr. DARWIN in that this planet
gave birth to the bodies which you wear, much in the way in which he has described. He has erred
in some details, as he has connected certain family lines with other certain family lines which are
incorrect. It is not my purpose to correct his error. However, there are certain things that it would
be well for you to know in order to develop your own consciousness as evolving human beings, as
divine creatures.

As life forms developed upon this planet, there came a time when the beauty of the
bodies developed was irresistible to the DIVINE SPIRITS which encircled the globe, and thus you
have the myth or legend that the SONS OF GOD mated with the DAUGHTERS OF MAN. This is
symbolical in that spirit was the SEMINAL FORCE, and Earth life was the receptacle. And as the
two united there was born the HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS. It is only the human consciousness
which is SELF-AWARE. This union took place eons and eons ago in the very early years of this
planet's existence. At that time the earth portions of the planet and the water portion of the planet
were more equally divided, and all of the land masses were joined, and all of the water masses were
joined.

The original color was red. The RACES that you know now have sprung from this
same originating race. In the configuration of your land masses now lie little similarity to the land
masses then. Your accounts of MU and LEMURIA are not without foundation. There are certain
errors again which I am not here for the purpose to correct.

The earliest HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS arose near the equator of the planet and
developed considerable civilization. Inasmuch as the spirit indwelling came recently from divine
realms, there was a high consciousness of the ONE GOD. This consciousness has persisted
through to the consciousness now in existence. Over eons and eons of time as human
consciousness developed, technology also developed.

With the consciousness of divine presence also exists the consciousness of light and
the need for freedom. Based upon these three things, civilization grew in a loving way, but as
always, there is the imperfection due to the incompleteness of the organism and its indwelling
presence. And thus there came a time when it would seem there was not enough abundance for all
to share equally, and the human consciousness developed proprietorship, and sharing became a
precious thing, rarer and more rarer. And as the consciousness level dropped away from its divine
source, more and more into the material realm, MOTHER EARTH herself began to take the
necessary actions to correct the situation.

(EARTH CHANGES) Through major upheavals, through volcanic action, through
tidal waves, through periods of erosion, through deluges and earthquakes, the then single continent
began to be broken up, parts of it disappearing beneath the waters of the oceans. And as certain
areas began to disintegrate, the red people began to be nomadic, seeking areas in which to survive,
taking with them whatever culture they possessed at that time.

Now you may wonder why in your current consciousness you do not have the
magnificent technology and knowledge that existed then. I will give you an analogy. As people
from the nations came to the shores of this continent which you now inhabit, they came from highly
civilized areas, and yet you have within your own nation areas of almost sub-human existence.
You have people who live in squalor, illiterate, unable to take care of themselves, barely subsisting
upon what the arid land provides them. And yet these same people came from highly advanced
civilizations who had universities and medical knowledge and all kinds of advanced conditions of
comfort. Thus you can see that although there existed this marvelous civilization with great
knowledge of spiritual things, with great expertise in the universal law, with great resources upon
which to draw, yet the immigrants, in order to survive, took with them only what they had.

Some of those who had the knowledge to establish new civilizations of equal or nearly
par to that which was being left behind did not survive the journey. Some went north, some went
east, some went west, and some went south. As time drew on, and the land masses separated, some
of the major land masses sunk and became completely covered over. This took millions of years to
accomplish. During this time the skin pigmentation was changed by virtue of the geographic
location. Thus you have the race beginnings of the Aryans in the north and the yellow races in the
mid-east -- now your Chinese and Japanese are remnants. You have the black races in the
southernmost continent, and you have the remnants of the red man in your American Indian. The
polynesian races stem directly from the Atlantean time. The Huna religion which it practices, is a
remnant of the expertise the Atlanteans practiced.

In all the RELIGIONS of the world you will find records of the DELUGE. In actuality
there was not one, there were many at different times in different places. The story of the ARK is a
legend grown out of the fact that as the waters inundated the land masses, people needed to traverse
the water by virtue of boats. As land masses were cut off, in order to find some place to survive,
great numbers of people would set upon a journey sometimes of many thousand miles, and a
remnant or two would manage to arrive at some kind of sanctuary. Thus you have the seeds of
varying cultures.

This continent that you now know is a recent comer in the history of your planet. The
oldest portion of land mass which is available for your feet to trod upon is at the southernmost part
of the African continent. There was at one time a large land mass there which is still spoken of in
the legend and myths of the African tribe. It is commonly known as GONDWANALAND. This is
sometimes thought by your historians to be the ancient ATLANTIS, but it is not. It pre-existed
Atlantis. The land mass known as Atlantis is recent in terms of other land masses of which I speak.
It was the largest remaining remnant after the FOURTH UPHEAVAL, the FOURTH CYCLE.

There are PLANETARY CYCLES of 144,000 years. You are now coming into a
segment of one of those cycles. You are in the CYCLE OF THE ARYAN RACES. The highest
technology, the greatest expertise, and the utilization of the resources of your planet, and the
greatest potentiality for the future lies with the Aryan races. This potentiality will only be realized
as the Aryan races grant their darker brethren access to their own resources, their education, their
technology, their civilization. This is not to say that these things are to be forced upon any culture.

The CHRISTIAN MOVEMENT has done the greatest harm by forcing it upon other
cultures in the mistaken belief that they were saving them. In ATLANTIS, along with the religious
belief in the ONE GOD, there was a great feeling of brotherhood. It was because of this level of
consciousness that the tremendous advances in technology were possible, for all knowledge was
freely shared. Thus they had produced material which you do not now have, but you will
eventually also develop. Their modes of transportation were far in advance of those you have now,
although, as I said before, there were also cultural groups who did not participate in this advanced
civilization, even as you have sub-cultures within your own nation.

At the highest level of technology, man began to exploit his brother through the misuse
of power. With the advanced understanding of the non-physical laws, the Atlanteans developed
processes by which they could control HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS, separating it to all intents and
purposes from its Divine source, thus making SLAVES, virtual robots -- creating a caste system
beyond your comprehension. There are caste systems in existence now in various parts of your
world that in no way compare with the CASTE SYSTEM which was developed by the Atlanteans
and proved to be their downfall.

As they exploited the EARTH which gave them a home, the EARTH SPIRIT herself
took that away from them. Your legends of ADAM AND EVE are symbolical of the beginning of
the races, as it was only the young who were able to survive the hardships of those perilous times,
and thus had to begin with crude implements and incomplete knowledge to rebuild civilizations...
I'm sure you have questions you would like to have answered. I will at this time entertain questions
from anyone who would wish to give me something to respond to.

STUDENT: Are you Anna?

SCRIBE: No I am not Anna; I am the Historian, the Scribe.

STUDENT: As these races that came down in the ages changed their appearances and
colors, you said the AMERICAN INDIAN was considered red. Is he the truest form of the original
race, or is that just ...?

SCRIBE: He is the surviving remnant of the RED RACE, but of course you must
understand that RACE has also been transformed by virtue of its habitat, the necessity to travel to
new lands. But in their legends you will find the history of their beginning, indeed the beginning of
all MANKIND upon this earth.

STUDENT: I would like to ask you if there were greater land masses at that time -- were the
inhabitants scattered all over these land masses or just in Africa, for example?

SCRIBE: At various times in various places. As I said, the FIRST HUMAN
CONSCIOUSNESS arose near the equator. This would be in that area of land mass which is now
recorded in the tribal legend of the black man of AFRICA, in that land which he called
GONDWANALAND.

BILL: You mentioned how they went in, the missionaries, to try to wish their religion
upon other people. That would also apply to their trying to make Christians, so called, quote-
unquote, out of the Indians here in America when they came here.

SCRIBE: That is quite so, and the remnants of the red man in this nation at this time clearly
showed the depredation Christianity brought to him along with whiskey, TB, and syphilis.

STUDENT: It is known today by scientists that most of the world is composed of water and
the lesser amount was land -- is the sunken Atlantis the cause for being unequal amounts of land
and water?

SCRIBE: It has only been equal at various times in each cycle. There is a point in each
144,000 years in which land mass equals water mass, and then it will go the extreme of land mass
exceeding water mass, and then back to the other extreme of water mass exceeding land mass. It is
a continuing cycle and is even now in process.

BILL: Can you tell us about how far we are in this 144,000 year cycle at this time?

SCRIBE: As all CYCLES are not singular, while one cycle is ending another cycle may be
a quarter of the way through, and another cycle half way through. And so there are cycles of
organism development, and there are cycles of land mass development, and there are cycles of
consciousness development. So I could not answer your question in any detail. As far as the
consciousness development cycle is concerned, you are now half way through the cycle which
began when the consciousness of this human condition began.

BILL: There has been for several years talk of the part of the United States falling off into
the ocean. Do you see that happening?

SCRIBE: (EARTH CHANGES) Yes, that is even now occurring. You are going to see
great changes in the coast line of your nation before the end of this century. This is not the only
nation so affected. However, if you will examine what is going on with other land masses, you will
see a similar thing occurring, for you are in that portion of the cycle when the water mass is
increasing and the land mass is decreasing. Thus you are going to have certain land masses rising
which have not been in your history, and you will be losing certain land masses which you thought
had always been there.

STUDENT: Is this the recycling type of process going on in the Earth structure?

SCRIBE: Oh yes, all cycles are a recycling except for the initial creation.

STUDENT: What was the location of ATLANTIS in the terms of today?

SCRIBE: It would be that portion between the European continent and down around the
bulge of the African continent and extending over to the eastern shore line of the American
continent. You see, there was no Atlantic Ocean. There was one solid mass. But there were
portions of this North American continent under water. There were portions of the South American
continent under water. As the continent, as the land mass began to be broken up and began to sink
beneath the water, or the water overcame it, then other land masses arose some of which became
your North American continent.

LAMAR: Can you give us the location of MU?

SCRIBE: MU would be what you would call, or what the African people call the
GONDWANALAND. It lies eastward from the tip of South America across the lower half of
Africa and extending northward across that continent.

RUSS: What is the outlook between now and say (the year) 2000 for this particular portion
of the North American continent, say where Oregon is?

SCRIBE: (EARTH CHANGES) There will be some loss to your shore line, but only a
possible few miles. Remember that we are speaking of cycles of thousands of years. Inasmuch as
this northern part of this continent is the latest land mass to rise, it will be the last to go down. You
are going to have more of the older portion lost first.

RETA MAE: Will there be new land masses coming up in the Pacific Ocean area?

SCRIBE: Yes, there will be.

KARL: How many years did it take ATLANTIS to do its thing?

SCRIBE: There were three major disturbances. Now understand that these disturbances
took several thousand years to be accomplished, so that all in all you were looking at about 55,000
years from the beginning of the disruption to the last remnant.

RETA MAE: You mentioned that the POLYNESIANS are part of the Atlanteans.

SCRIBE: They are the remnants that carried the philosophical truths most purely into their
current civilizations.

BILL: I wonder if a question of this nature would be correct. We have a mountain here
which you are familiar with, MT. ST. HELENS, that has recently erupted. Is this part of the
change, and can you tell us about what to expect in the future of that mountain?

SCRIBE: It is not just that mountain. That mountain is like a bead on a string of beads. It
belongs to a chain of centers through which these forces are relieved. Thus you are going to see
major volcanic action all the way from the uppermost part of this continent down all the way
through the lowest point in the southern continent.

RUSS: Some scientists feel that parallel development of the species rather than evolution
counts for much of the past history. Could you comment on that?

SCRIBE: As I stated before, Mr. DARWIN's theory of EVOLUTION is correct in concept
in that the organism which bears life began as a single cell structure and developed evolutionary-
wise out of the slime. But he does not or is not able to link things up truly. His own reasoning leads
him astray. Without going into a great deal of detail, let me just say that of these single cellular
structures which became manifest as organism in which life could dwell, there was not one species
but a number of species. Thus man as you now know him is not developed from the apes. But
animal life is related to animal life, and the human form is related to the human form.

Where Mr. Darwin went astray was in seeing the similarity of animality in the human
organism and in the animal world. Since he did not understand the principle underlying the creation
of life, he took these similarities to mean direct linkage. That is not so. The DIVINE SPIRIT
which was drawn to the physical body is not drawn to the animal body, not that the animal body is
not beautiful in its own way. But the cellular consciousness of that creation is not sufficient to
evolve into an ENLIGHTENED GOD-BEING.

As certain cycles are completed upon this earth, the ANIMAL WORLD will return to
its beginning, even as all other worlds return to their beginning.

LAMAR: I have been most interested in the healers from the Philippines, and I understand
that at one time there were many such healers in the Hawaiian Islands. Is this a holdover from their
early religion?

SCRIBE: This is part of the knowledge that was taken from ATLANTIS.

LAMAR: That is what I had suspected.

RETA MAE: What will happen to the Christian religion now?

SCRIBE: Eventually all RELIGIONS will go back to the one from which it started. In
ATLANTIS there was only one religion. In times previous to Atlantis there was only one religion.
Religion has become diversified in the evolutionary spiral. And in the way that the complexity
returns to simplicity, religion will turn back to the ONE SOURCE. It is even now so -- the world
recognized religions all acknowledge ONE GOD. If it were not for the level of consciousness at
which human nature now finds itself in its evolution, there would even now be a recognized single
reverence for a single source.

LAMAR: Is this diversified level of consciousness that causes all the atrocities and fighting
and wars etc. in the name of religion?

SCRIBE: That is correct.

RUSS: Are the biblical stories of the CRUCIFIXION, RESURRECTION literal, or are
they more symbolical?

SCRIBE: They are literal in so far as such events did transpire. They are legend inasmuch
as a single story has been compiled out of many stories.

RUSS: Would you explain that a little more. Was there more than one person known as
Jesus?

SCRIBE: Yes. The name JESUS means "He who has faith", and there were many like him.
And in each modern RELIGION there is a prophet such as he, born of IMMACULATE
CONCEPTION, with a life very similar to that which you are taught, ending in the utmost sacrifice.
CHRISTIANITY developed this story out of ancient Judaism history. And actually many Hebraic
traditions also came out of ATLANTIS as do the MAYAN LANGUAGES. And indeed in your
NEW TESTAMENT there are certain words used which are actually Mayan rather than Greek.

RETA MAE: Speaking of the MAYAN, what happened to them?

SCRIBE: I'm not sure that I can find words to exactly describe. This is a civilization which
reached that point in which it was taken in total, so to speak, into the invisible world. These events
have transpired many times and give rise to the legend which indeed there is a legend of your own
Jesus Christ, of his ascension into the clouds. All civilizations have the potentiality for moving in
that direction. In this last recorded historical period, the Mayan are the only one that has reached
that point in consciousness. I cannot say more than that.

LAMAR: There seem to be many theories and thoughts as to whether Jesus suffered
excruciating pain that we would assume by being nailed to the cross. There are others who contend
that he was able to go through that ordeal without all that suffering. Do you have anything on that?

SCRIBE: (TRANSITION, DEATH) As I said before, this is not the experience of a single
person, but of many. But at the moment of death there is no pain no matter what trauma there may
exist in the body. You know now even at your level of consciousness, that in periods of extreme
stress or threat or trauma, unconsciousness occurs, or there is a dis-association from the physical
body. Some people recall this period of dis-association from the physical body, even recount
stories of watching their mutilated bodies being picked up by the medical attendant, and they do not
know pain until they return to that body in waking consciousness.

When the spirit moves on, when the indwelling consciousness parts from the body for
the last time, the pain is not felt. The event is witnessed, the wounds are evident and known. But
pain is intended (tape change) .......

....this will happen whether or not you are aware of your GUIDES as you call them.
Each of you has a band of protectors, if you will, and this dis-association is a spontaneous
occurrence. The HELPERS and PROTECTORS are there to take care of that which dis-associates
from the physical body, to protect it and harbor it so that it does not come to further harm during a
period of confusion.

RUSS: Are the scientists and others of similar thoughts Atlanteans that have reincarnated?

SCRIBE: There are many ATLANTEANS REINCARNATED in what is the cradle of the
civilization which now exists. One might say that everyone incarnate now was an Atlantean. But
remember that ATLANTIS existed for many thousands of years, and thus there were many
reincarnations in Atlantis as well as since that time. What is happening now is that the priesthood
of Atlantis, the scientists, those with knowledge are reincarnating to move with this world into the
NEW AGE OF CONSCIOUSNESS.

Within each megacycle there are lesser interims. The ages that you relate to, your
zodiac being about 2,600 years in each age, as you understand entering the AGE OF AQUARIUS,
you are concluding a 2,600 year age in PISCES. These words, Pisces and Aquarius, simply
describing the nature of the consciousness existing world-wide during that period of time. As you
move into the Age of Aquarius, that is an age of science. It is the age of brotherhood. And so you
are coming back again to that pinnacle of development experienced in Atlantis before the final
dissolution of that landmass which scattered the seeds of humanity. Thus you are being given
another chance to salvage all that human kind has worked for -- to perpetuate it, its pristine purity,
rather than having to lose it and start over as remnant, repeating the ADAM AND EVE story.

LAMAR: Is it not true, a lot of our inventions and steps forward took place because
someone was aware enough they were able to receive information given from your side of the veil?

SCRIBE: (INSPIRED IDEAS) Often times the information thought to be given from our
side is in actual fact brought through the memory body of the individual inventor or discoverer, this
person having been already knowledgeable in his field in ATLANTIS, has built into his MEMORY
BODY all of the functions, all of the expertise, all of the knowledge which he enjoyed at that time,
and any that he may have garnered since that time. And thus simply remember that there is
stimulus from our side (that) is not to be denied. We are anxious to preserve this planet, for we live
here too.

STUDENT: We have been hearing about the Lord Mitryah in England. Is he ever going to
make himself known?

SCRIBE: Eventually.

STUDENT: Can you tell me any amount of time and why has he been held back? He was to
come out at the beginning of this Aquarian Age.

SCRIBE: It is a matter of consciousness. Time is determined by consciousness.

STUDENT: Is that on our side?

SCRIBE: In all spheres. One is never alone. One never functions totally by himself. You
are always a part of something else, and all things must come together for something to manifest.

STUDENT: What can we do to help this along?

SCRIBE: By raising the level of your own consciousness, by striving to understand
yourselves, the world in which you live, how you function, what your mission is, what you desire
for the future. One can only work with himself.

LAMAR: From your standpoint could I say there is no time, that everything is
simultaneous. In other words, reincarnation of an individual could be in the 17th century or in the
25th century from your point of view -- not possible from our point of view.

SCRIBE: (SPIRIT PHYSICAL) If you had read the previous transcriptions of Silverthistle
talks, you would know that we are also subject to TIME, not as limited as you, but nevertheless, we
inhabit this planet and we are subject to time similar to yours. The non-existence of time is in the
Absolute. In that degree you are correct.

LAMAR: Speaking of raising the consciousness, I hope you will convey to Anna how very
sorry we are that she was unable to get her lectures off the ground due to our lack of attention.

SCRIBE: Anna clearly understands and inasmuch as we have been through the
INITIATION process, we hold no negative feelings -- there is no anger, resentment, or other
negative feelings. The time simply was not right. As mentioned before, many things must come
together for something to manifest, and when the time is right Anna will be with you again.

LAMAR: Thank you. That is good to know.

SCRIBE: It has been my joy and pleasure to be with you this evening. I would ask you now
to join me in a meditation exercise to raise the level of your consciousness, to rejuvenate your
spirit, to bring healing.

MEDITATION: I ask you now to join me in a walk. With the powers of creative
visualization, walk with me through this meadow. And as we walk together, note the shades
provided by certain stands of trees. Feel the sunshine that warms your head. Note the beautiful
color in the flowers that spring among the grasses of the earth.

And as we walk along together, you begin to hear the CELESTIAL MUSIC that plays
all the time, but only in moments of quiet relaxation when you take your attention away from the
dross world can you begin to hear the melodious chimes. And now as the music surrounds you,
you are warmed by the sun and cooled by the shade, and your feet are welcomed by the springy
grass and the soft earth.

Be aware that you are joined by those whom you love. Turn to them and call them by
name and welcome them on this walk with us. Those you don't see, invite them to join us, and we
will cross the meadow and we will walk up that little rise over there and find comfortable seats on
the ground beneath the trees. And our spirits are high and joyous as we are bathed in the warmth of
the sun, and we are cooled by the shade if the trees, and the melody surrounds us. And the
vibrations of dear MOTHER EARTH that rise from beneath us, and the joy of the companionship
of loved ones permeates our very souls.

When we feel love bursting from within us so intense as to be almost unbearable and
wanting to share this marvelous joy, we reach out and touch each other and bless each other as love
flows through us and around us, from us, into us. Now for a moment in silence, enjoy...

Now as we share these ecstatic moments of love and joy and companionship, we
realize that we are whole. We no longer have bodies of infirmity. We no longer have limitation.
We are totally free and yet held securely in love. We look about us and we see that others are
healed, and they too are whole, joyous, and beloved. And the warm sunshine is like liquid gold,
and the Earth holds us in its mother arms. And even in this holding and sharing we know that we
cannot clutch or grasp or retain. We release, we let go, and we are free as we free everyone else.
And yet we are linked with ties of love, and we are filled with a serene calmness. We have no
cares, only joys and peace. And then we come to a common understanding -- we are all of one
mind and yet free -- each a unique individual in that knowledge of that individuality.

We again bless everyone around us, and we begin to walk down the slope and across
the meadow. We bring with us the joy and love, the calmness, the serenity that we found on that
little hill. And the celestial music still rings in our ears. And so we come back to our point of
departure having shared a moment of healing and that joyous love. With a final blessing we
enclose ourselves again in our individual lives knowing that we are forever linked. And now you
come back to the consciousness of this room. I bless each and every one of you. I bid you God
speed. Go in love and peace. I thank you.