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SESSION #4 – SEPTEMBER 11, 1982
Gloria’s Circle
Present: Lilly Ann Dawson, Larry and Eileen Horton, Richard and Mary White, Ida
Nevala and Myra Perala
After an invocation of protection and guidance, and group singing, Silverthistle came.
S/T: Good evening.
Group: Good evening, Silverthistle.
Myra: Are you Silverthistle?
S/T: Yes.
Myra: It has been a long time since we’ve been with you. A whole month.
S/T: (labored) We will ----- have control ---- soon.
Myra: Would you like us to sing some more.
S/T: Yes.
“His Peace Is Flowing Like A River”
S/T: (Stronger) That’s better now. Got the breathing under control now.
Welcome. Glad to see you here this evening.
Myra: We’re glad to welcome you here this evening too.
S/T: Yes, we were not sure it was going to be possible this evening. It would
be well to have a little healing before we begin any lecture or messages.
Myra: Would you recommend what we could do?
S/T: Let us make it a group endeavor and each one bring into the circle
anyone they might wish, but I would suggest that you also include those who have
recently entered the corridor of transition. I WOULD ASK THAT Gloria’s mother
be put into the circle as she is approaching the corridor and Gloria is very
concerned. Each of you put those you love into the circle. Now put your palms
together, rubbing them vigorously to build up energy. Then direct the energy on
those of concern for healing.
Group: (Names of loved ones were spoken to put them in the circle)
S/T: I also put in the name of my instrument. (Group continues to pray for
individuals.) We have here a Violet who wishes to receive your services as well.
Group: (Group prays for Violet.) How can we serve Violet besides our prayers?
S/T: As we conclude the healing service, she will also be served. Now if
everyone has entered their loved ones. Again rub your hands together vigorously
and then turn your palms outward envisioning green and blue light emanating from
them in the pattern of energy. This energy is then absorbed in the matrix of your
fleshly world as well as the Spirit-Physical and in actuality does physically reach the
people of whom you have had concern. The higher spectrum of the vibrations serves
those on the corridor as well as those on the other side.
Myra: Thank you very much for the healing service, Silverthistle.
S/T: Everyone here thanks you all for joining with them as well. Blessings
are sent to you from them.
Richard: We send our blessings to them.
S/T: They are received with love.
Richard: We bless them with God’s love.
Myra: Do you have a message for us tonight, Silverthistle?
S/T: Indeed I have. My homily for tonight is the second beatitude. “Blessed
are they that mourn for they shall be comforted.” As usual, this has been taken to
mean that those who mourn a loss shall receive comfort. But indeed, it refers to him
who enjoys perplexity and vexation. So long as your lives are filled with joy and
amplitude, you give little thought to need of the Comforter. It is only when you are
wounded, feeling sorrowful, angry and pitiful, that you call for the Comforter. And
yet the Comforter has been present and promised and ever serving you since the
beginning of your human consciousness. You do not mourn for those who have
crossed through the corridor of transition. You mourn for yourselves. You feel pity
for yourselves. You are vexed because you are lacking that which you had before.
Only through these kinds of sorrowful experiences does one come to know the
comforter. Thus he who mourns calls for the Comforter, and the Comforter
comes, and he is happy again. And so it ever is. Do you understand?
Group: Yes, I have certainly experienced that.
S/T: Very well, then. Is there another way in which I can serve you? (long
pause)
Mary W: We appreciated your teaching the last time we were together, Silverthistle,
and we wonder if you have something to teach us tonight?
S/T: I have given my homily. It is now for you to decide what we shall talk
about. (chuckles)
Eileen: Could we perhaps talk about karma?
S/T: Certainly. What would you like to know about karma? Karma is an
Indian Sanskrit word referring to the effect of the causes which you
set in motion. You are repeatedly told “As ye sow, so shall ye reap.” It
is such that you reap in this life what you sow in this life and that too
is karma. While you may consider that you suffer in this life for things
you have omitted, or committed, in other lives, that is not the only
karma, although that is also true. Besides everything in the universe
which your senses perceive and which you experience, there is
another side to this coin. Those who seem to have benefits which they
have not earned are also enjoying karma. While you are never given a
cross too heavy to bear, you are not given free joys. You have earned
them. Thus, you must not envy another for good fortune, for it is his
by right, whether you know what the original cause was for or not. Do
you understand? (Quiet assent) If you have a question in mind,
please voice it.
Eileen: Is it necessary to suffer in this life?
S/T: It is never necessary to suffer except that as you suffer, you grow
because you do not increase awareness through joy alone. In this physical world it is
necessary to mourn as I gave you in my homily. If you do not have perplexities and
vexations, you will not seek that higher consciousness which alleviates the pain.
Myra: Last time you spoke about the soul, and about the fact that our soul is a
little tiny part of a greater soul. I was wondering how that relates to karma. You said that
our parents are of a different soul than our soul but that each of us belongs to a number of
parts of our soul, and I don’t understand that.
S/T: The Soul-Body is comprised of many entities even as your physical
body is comprised of multitudinous cells. Each cell is given a consciousness of its
mission, so to speak. A liver cell knows it is a liver cell and does not become a
toenail. When you are speaking of human consciousness, the life span is so much
longer than that of a cell that you must widen your horizons of understanding. If a
liver cell tries to become a toenail, it dies. That is karma. That consciousness of the
liver cell then is re-created and if it tries to become a heart muscle, the cell dies and
that is karma. All through each life span, whether in physical flesh, or Spirit-
Physical, or some other level of consciousness, if you endeavor to enter that
experience which does not belong to you, you die. Now this may not be a literal
translation, indeed, but a portion of your consciousness dies to become reborn, and
that is karma.
When you allow your consciousness to play around in the negative
aspects, you are entering places and experiences to which you do not belong. The
consciousness of those kinds of experiences must die in order to be reborn at a
higher level of experience, and that is karma.
As each emanating cell of the Soul-Body becomes incarnate in Ego-
Body, and Mental-Body, and Emotional-Body, it is developing higher levels of
Consciousness for the Soul-Body. The Soul-Body sometimes attempts to put a
Consciousness emanation of itself into the wrong place, and thus the consciousness
Emanation must die in order to be reborn. Thus the Soul-Body is also given a
rebirth through death, and that is karma. Do you understand? (long pause)
Again I would remind you that each cell is as individual from the
other cells of your body as well as the cells of other bodies; as each snowflake is
individual from each other snowflake, and again your death and transition and
rebirth are unique and individual. Only the pattern can be described, not the
individual experience.
Richard: Even though there are a number of individuals such as myself who share
an oversoul, my individuality continues from one life to the next. Is that correct?
S/T: Only partially so.
Richard: I mean as far as my karma is concerned it does?
S/T: It is difficult to explain, but some of your karma is satisfied by other
incarnations of a portion of the Self which you now are. There are other lives going
on now which are a part of your Self and of which this individuation of your Self is
acknowledged. You become consciously aware of these other lives in this
individuation through dreams, through experiences of familiarity, of intuitive
knowledge. These other cells may carry some of the karma of this individuation as it
continues in another place and another context that you call time. Thus you will find
there are individuals incarnate who share mutual memories. Because at some time
and place they were in a singular individuation. Because the earth plane is a finite
plane, the subtleties of this intermingling of existence are so difficult to explain.
Your language does not truly incorporate words with which to describe these things.
This is why at various times people have had to coin new words, in order to get a
thought across which had not previously been expressed. And you, of course, also
know that as new things are discovered in your universe, things must be given some
kind of label, even though they have existed since the beginning of your universe.
They only succeed in achieving reality for you when your consciousness
encompasses them.
The subject of reincarnation is one of those issues of which human
consciousness is not yet sufficiently evolved to truly understand. From time to time
you become aware of a life in which memory of a seemingly previous life comes
through in clarity of detail and wholeness of comprehension. Researchers in your
latest century have uncovered many such lives and have compiled them. And these
things are true. But I must again say that each cell is distinctly individual from
every other, thus these cases are only cases in point. While it can be said that it is
only necessary to see one white horse to know that such a thing exists, that does not
mean that all horses are white.
Is there any further question on this subject?
Eileen: When someone from this earth plane passes over and then chooses to
reincarnate, do they always come back to this earth plane or can they go into some other
part of the universe?
S/T: “In my Father’s house are many mansions.”
Myra: Does that mean yes?
Richard: I’d say it does!
S/T: I am sure that I have told my story to you before, that I am
experiencing reincarnation, and yet I do not wear a fleshy body. (pause)
Myra: This is the level between earth and the next plane? The Spirit-Physical is a
level below the spiritual level? Is that what you are saying?
S/T: Your word “spiritual” is an anomaly. You are in the flesh, but you are
clearly aware of a person who is not that body. Why then can you not accept a level
of being in which a person exists without body?
Myra: I can accept that. I was wondering… You mentioned different levels or
planes. Could you describe what those other levels might be?
S/T: Again language makes this difficult. To say “level” is not adequate. To
say “plane” is also inadequate. It implies a lack of groundedness or solidity. I am
actually more solid than you are. There is less space between what you might call
the atoms of my body, or rather the particles that comprise these units, than there is
between the particles of the atoms that comprise your physical body.
Richard: How did your body come into existence? Ours comes to this earth through
birth as babies. Is it similar to your birth, or is it different?
S/T: Yes, it is similar, and yes, it is different. We have sex. We have birth,
but we have ways and means by which we can create things differently than you do
in your physical flesh. That person that inhabits the flesh, that sense of “I” which
can stand back and say “I (tape must be turned)
….to immortal that enters the flesh, that is the core being that takes with it
the Ego and Emotional-Body and the Mental-Body when the flesh is cast off. But it
is none of those things. I have ego. I have emotion. I have intellectual capacity. I
think. I learn. I remember, and obviously I communicate. For these things I do not
need a fleshly body unless it is a circumstance such as this very one now. With those
in my condition, I can communicate without a fleshly body. But we have voice. We
have other sensoria. As I stand in relationship to you, (so are) there those that stand
in relationship to me, and we have as much difficulty bringing communication into
our condition from them, as you have bringing communication into your condition
from me. The condition of the “I” being is determined by the karma of which you
speak.
It is not necessary to go directly from the fleshly to the Spirit-Physical such
as I, nor to that level which is parallel to my condition. There are those cells of the
Soul-Body of such elevated consciousness that are sometimes sent into the physical
life for some particular purpose, that also being part of the karma of the Soul-Body.
Thus when those of you in the fleshly condition call for communication with loved
ones who have entered the corridor of transition, it is not always possible for them
to come back to such a condition that communication can be made. People such as I,
who are given such responsibility as I am now exercising, are given experiences in
other conditions and trained for this kind of work. We do not necessarily come
directly from the fleshly condition. In fact, now (we) often do not.
Myra: Where would they come from then?
S/T: We have been taken into higher conditions, into temples of initiation.
We are trained and then we are sent into some rebirth experience that brings us into
the condition necessary to accomplish the Soul-Body’s desire.
Richard: Your ability to communicate with those who have passed into the corridor
from the flesh then depends on their condition at that time. It depends on where they are
in the corridor and how far they have progressed. Is that true?
S/T: That is quite true. For instance, in your flesh world, you have schools.
You would not consider sending a child directly from an elementary grade into a
college situation without the benefit of intervening training. But you are also aware
that there are those with special gifts that do not fit into the system, and, indeed, you
have your child prodigies. These are those who have been many times in many
conditions and have deep understanding of human conditions. Human condition
does not exist solely in the flesh as you know the flesh. There are levels of elevation
in consciousness that go beyond the requirement to return to lower or lesser levels of
understanding. There are the exceptional few who have reached very high levels and
have come back into your fleshly world as messiahs and saviors. Without this kind
of inspiration from time to time, man’s aspiring nature would become very dim. As
indeed, it seems to, even so.
Myra: When we return, when we come into this fleshly existence, are we… do
we come with a purpose? Do we come to work on a certain purpose?
S/T: Yes, indeed, and that is karma. You never escape.
Richard: Who would want to. It is such a beautiful, perfect work situation. Such a
blessing.
Larry: I have a question. I’ve had a hang-up for many years. I understand that
there is always somebody to keep an eye on me at all times in anything that I say or do. I
also feel that those loved ones who pass over have the ability to see what I’m doing at all
times, what I’m thinking, what I’m saying. Would you explain this hang-up I have?
S/T: What you have said is not entirely true. There will be those of your
loved ones who have gone on to their own destiny. When you make your own
transition, you will come to understand how the flesh world dims very rapidly. As
that “I” part of you gathers up its ego and its mentality and its emotions and the
other things that it takes with it, and leaves behind the fleshly shell, the journey
onward engenders its own interests and its attention is re-focused. If you will,
consider what happens to you when you take a vacation. You pack your bags and
you gather all your belongings, and you pack the car, and you get in and say
“Goodbye, I will return in a couple of weeks.” How quickly the concerns of your
everyday routine life fade as you see new places, meet new people, have new
experiences and grow. You might say that the first period of time after transition
begins is similar to a vacation. There is not an immediate mission upon which one
must embark, and one is free from the cares and worries that one has left behind. If
you had a choice, would you turn around and seek again the limited existence of the
fleshly world if you were given the opportunity to explore a new wonderful
condition of freedom and rest where your environment is as exquisite as you want to
imagine it to be? Now, when one leaves this physical vale of tears, if you are
captured here by materialistic concerns and addictions, you do not go on a vacation.
You are stuck until you release these things. By the same token, those who are left
behind keep ties on you which pull at you, dragging your attention back, but most
often that is like a human child with which a distracted parent is thoroughly fed up.
The music calls. The indescribable beauties that are offered tempt, and you are still
human so you go as you are tempted. It is the divine plan so that you will not linger
in this fleshly realm when you can no longer operate in it to anyone’s benefit.
That is why it is necessary that we have initiation temples and training,
much, much training, before we are sent back to work in the physical. Thus, your
helpers are most often highly educated in soul mission. Because of strong soul ties,
sometimes these people are indeed members of the physical family which you knew
and loved. But that is only because they have the capacity to now serve the spirit
world. Does that help you?
Larry: Yes, that was great. I appreciate that. Thank you very much.
Myra: Silverthistle, you mentioned a Violet that would like to serve us, or we
could serve her.
S/T: Yes. This is a soul who was very ill in the flesh. Also ill in her mental
and emotional body. Because of the circumstances of her life, those illnesses had to
be taken with her and thus she is stuck, unable to respond to the call of the Elysian
Fields, until she finds the healing of the spirit in the physical world. This is a
condition of your ghosts very often, and the best healing can come to the physical
from the physical, though it may be through the Spirit-Physical. But inasmuch as
your brain waves are physical and your bodies comprised of energy, it is that energy
that is needed to make these mental and emotional bodies whole, and sufficient for
them to be taken into subtler realms without damage.
Myra: How can we individually be of best help to her? Shall we continue to send
her prayers and love to her daily?
S/T: Absolutely. Always, always pray for your so-called dead for they are
as alive as you, and so often need more of your prayers after physical death because
they are in something of a no-man’s land.
Myra: Is that true of all who leave this plane? And is it easier for some and
harder for some?
S/T: We are trying to generalize about individuals. It is the rare occasion
that one is stuck. If you consider the number of births and deaths that occur every
day on this planet, you can then grasp that rarity of one singular ghost out of
centuries of births and deaths.
Mary W: Silverthistle, can you tell us something of Gloria’s paintings. Is there
something we could tell her about this?
S/T: As Gloria’s mediumship is exercised, this kind of phenomenon will
continue. It is not unusual. There is a great deal of artistic energy in this lifetime
that has not been sufficiently developed. But the time has now come in that this
particular lifespan is now in an astrological aspect for a new creative energy to be
expressed and this is the beginning of it.
Myra: Is there anything you would like to tell us about any of the individual
paintings?
S/T: There is nothing particularly unusual about any of them. It is only
that these are spirit entities that are brought to Gloria’s unconscious when she
concentrates on someone she knows. In this way she is physically manifesting
psychic perceptions as she always has. She has always been able to see spirit people
and has indeed described some of these people to some of you. But this particular
phenomenon began when she was thinking about people physically removed from
her. So that this could be done for anyone. All she has to do is sit down and think
about a particular person, and that spirit entity who wishes to be made known to
that person will create the energy on the paper that attracts the medium to it. It is
almost an intellectual magnetic process.
Richard: So could the person she is thinking about at that time recognize
what she draws? Is there a correlation?
S/T: By “recognize”… I must say that perhaps the physical features would
not resemble a family member as explained just earlier, or the spirit band
surrounding an individual is not necessarily comprised of family members who have
made the transition. However, the individual incarnate certainly would feel an
emotional tie to the picture and the picture certainly would have meaning to that
individual.
Larry: I’ve noticed when there is a visualization or when you’re making
drawings, there has never been a full-length picture of the individual. There has always
been from the bust up, and not a full length picture. Could you explain why?
S/T: First of all, there may not have been pictures which you have
witnessed, but there are indeed full length pictures as you call them. But the entities
present a face primarily because that is how a person is identified. If you are to see
only the clothing, it is not likely that you could be sure of identification. But you can
see a face without clothing and know who that individual is. When a full length
picture is presented, it is to demonstrate a time and place, because clothes have
period value. The costume, for example, demonstrates the turn of the century, either
forward or backward, which would not necessarily have any meaning unless it was
presented as a special message to the recipient.
Myra: Silverthistle, I have been wondering about the people who are here in this
particular group. Were we drawn together for a purpose, is there a reason why we are
here together, these certain people?
S/T: There are no accidents or coincidences. Everything is a result of a
reason. I told you when we first met that you were in a process of an initiation. At
such time that I become convinced that this will be worthwhile, there will be others
brought in as teachers to further your initiation.
Mary: Thank you.
Richard: If we’re sincerely interested in this initiation, what can we do to further the
process?
S/T: The communication has to be developed to a higher degree. The
language must be developed. A program must be set up and a regularity established.
Myra: A regularity of meeting? I know that Gloria plans to be here. I think we
can do that. When you say a program, what do you mean by program? How would you
suggest we go about setting up a program?
S/T: That will be done for you by those who come to teach you. Your
responsibility would be for you to be present, alert and interested.
Myra: How many would you recommend should be in our circle? Would it make
any difference – the number of people?
S/T: Numbers will make no difference because those who belong will be
present.
Richard: So there is nothing we need do during these sessions that we aren’t
doing now?
S/T: That is correct. The highest and best service that is being
accomplished at this time is the development of the communication. As you have
been advised, my association with this instrument is very young. We have a lot of
work to do before we can perfect the communication to fulfill a higher order of
accomplishment.
Myra: I wonder about our ability to communicate, too. Is there something we
might do to help the communication from our side?
S/T: This is what was referred to by “language”. As you have found in
answers given previously, language is very limited in order to bring understanding.
As communication is held regularly, the language barrier is dropped and new
language is brought in. Your understanding grows so that principles presented
become easier for you to comprehend and bring into practice.
Lilly: Would it be of any help to try and contact past teachers of the instrument?
S/T: By past teachers, I assume you are talking about communicants who
have participated in earlier sessions some time ago? No, that would not be
appropriate now because those communicants came to serve the circle that was
meeting at that time, and you are the only one present who was a permanent part of
that group.
Lilly: Thank you.
Larry: During my meditations where I’m seeking answers to some problems,
would it be possible to incorporate a guide that I could contact directly? Or how could
this be worked?
S/T: One of the most successful procedures of which I have been privileged
to use with people in the flesh is to suggest that you imagine a room or a place in
which you are most comfortable. If you choose a room, then very carefully, in
minute detail, furnish that room with those things most conducive to your pleasure,
your comfort and your peace of mind. Be particularly careful of the colors. Clearly
imagine the wall, the floor covering, and any decoration of books, knickknacks,
anything, everything. When you have this place furnished to your absolute delight,
then invite your Higher Self and guides to come and make themselves known. If you
have trouble materializing this in your imagination, then in your imagination, open
the door as you would for any guest. If you still do not see anyone clearly, pretend
that you do and invite your guest in to have a seat, to join you in a short period of
conversation. Imagine a conversation in which you get acquainted. Do not
immediately pour your troubles out. As you proceed in this repetitiously, one day
you will open the door and a being of great beauty will be there to be welcomed into
your heart and into your mind. And you will have the guidance and comfort that
you need.
If you do not wish to choose a room, then you may also choose an outdoor
scene. Do make it some place that would be secluded and safe from unwanted
intruders. Do not select a place to imagine that would also accommodate the public
such as a beach. Find some place in which you feel your privacy would be inviolate.
Practice that for a while. If you are still unsuccessful, then I shall be happy to try to
be of further help.
Larry: Thank you.
Myra: Silverthistle, we were discussing tonight before our session began spirit
voices, and we had considered having our tape go to see if any spirit voices would
appear. Would you recommend that?
S/T: It is an interesting experiment. There are no guaranteed
results. But as I said earlier, we in Spirit-Physical have voice. What that
amounts to is a wave such as a radio wave. We have the capacity to…
(end of tape)….. (session ended shortly thereafter.)
(spirit taping session after everyone departed produced no voices 11:30 PM – 1:45 AM)
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