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SESSION #6 – OCTOBER 2, 1982 Gloria’s Circle
Present: LaMar Bell, Ida Nevala, Julia Perala, Myra Perala, Larry and Eileen Horton, Owen and Maxine Cramer, Richard and Mary White, Mary Silveira, Clista and Wayne Brooks.
(Notes by transcriber, LaMar Bell) Prior to going into trance, Gloria explained the purpose of the bowl of water on the table. It seems that during one of these trance sessions, a great deal of moisture may be taken from the medium and from members of the group. To prevent this dehydration, a bowl of water is placed on the table so the water can be drawn from the bowl. In other circles such as this, each person had a glass of water with which to replenish this moisture both before and during the meeting.
Gloria: Myra might tell you what she told me after the last session. Myra: Oh, was it the last session? I didn’t remember which time it was, but one time I happened to be glancing out that way, and I noticed that there was a cloud of fog that was going over toward Larry. It looked kind of like steam except it was big at the bottom and got small at the top. Gloria: It doesn’t necessarily have to do with the person that was sitting over there, but it could be that in the drawing of the moisture from everybody in the group, more might have been drawn from that side or something. You know, it was a balancing action.
Note: Another point of interest had to do with prayer as an individual thing or the value of group prayer taken from a book.
Gloria: My remarks (Spiritual Frontiers Fellowship meeting the previous Saturday) and my understanding of Jesus’ teaching... Jesus did not build a church nor did he organize a body of worshipers in a formal manner, and at no time actually recommended verbatim prayer. He said “when you pray, pray as follows, or in like form, and he gave the Lord’s Prayer as a pattern, as he, himself was given as a pattern. It’s man’s idea to build the structure and to build a corporate body of worshipers, and to build the corporate prayers. So in my estimation that is a public function which man has established as a means to perpetuate certain structures that man has built. I’m not saying that it is not inspiration. We all get a lot of value out of fellowship, out of unison thinking. We do that when we sing, you see. But I am saying that is not an element of effective prayer. Remember I said every thought is a prayer, every word is a prayer, every deed is a prayer. We are talking about the effective prayer when one is intensely praying for results. So if you are going to seek, intensely seek, a personal guidance, you may get the inspiration through a corporate prayer to go home and more intensely perform a personal prayer that is going to get you personal satisfaction.
Owen: That is very interesting. We had an interim minister briefly. One of his particular thoughts was that he never felt comfortable praying for everybody else. He felt that was an individual matter, and so his prayers in the time that the minister normally took up five minutes to give a long prayer, were very very brief, and he left that very plainly to each individual.
Gloria: Yes, and you will remember when I opened my remarks, I talked about the injunction that we are given to pray in secret, to go into the secret room to do our praying.
LaMar: The highest form of prayer is simply holding God’s name 24 hours a day within us and recognizing our oneness with the Father. Gloria: That’s right – exactly. In fact the ancient Hebrew doctrine was that the name of God was so magical, and so precious, and so special, that man was not allowed to pronounce it at all. It was reduced to an anagram so that man could not pronounce it.
Singing and healing as usual. Silverthistle came in very quickly and easily this time.
S/T: Your singing is appreciated, but the effort it took was more important than the sound. Welcome. We are so excited to be here this night. There are such things to come. First let us have the healing circle and service. Prepare yourselves as you have been taught. (Rubbing hands together to bring in energy) Good. Now bring in your loved ones. Come on now. Bring in that energy – lots of blue and green. And now let us not forget Violet (additional names given) So beautiful here. If I could but describe the correspondences that manifest here. Thank you for your energy and love. (after conclusion of the healing service)And now let us get on with the proceedings. There is an answer to Helen’s question, but I see she is not here. So we will table that until she is present. So we shall go with my homily for the evening. “Blessed are they who hunger and thirst after righteousness for they shall be filled.” The key word here is “righteousness”. As usual most have an erroneous conception of what righteousness is meaning in this dissertation. As I told you before, the beatitudes are universal laws which operate whether you cooperate or not. In this instance you are being told “As within, so without”. Righteousness in this instance refers to justice and equality not piety. As you fasten your thoughts on a thing, so it is for you. If you would have good health and harmony within your fleshly body, then you must hunger and thirst for harmony in your thoughts and emotions. If you are to have abundant material supply then you must fasten your thought upon God and your source of supply rather than upon an empty purse. If you want loving companionship, then you must focus your thoughts upon lovingness, kindness and sympathy. As you are told in the Twenty-Third Psalm, “He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name sake”. If you keep your thoughts fastened upon God, if you hunger and thirst for God righteousness, then that with which you shall be filled will be to your desire. But if you focus your thought on poverty, illness, pain and loneliness then that is what you will have filling your life. And so my homily is ended. (A long silence.) Myra: We see proof of that all around us. Maxine: In line with what you have said, I think about (the painful) stiffness in my neck. I assume that I am being stiff about something?
S/T: That is correct, and more personally, being stiff-necked about something. In other words – opinionated and inflexible. Many of your physical ailments come as a result of things that are in your subconscious and unconscious, but as the law says, if you hunger and thirst after righteousness, you shall be filled. As you hunger and thirst, your conscious will train your subconscious to follow that pattern. More about the bodies of man is to be brought to you very shortly.
Voice: Are you going to present that or is that one of the teachers waiting to talk to us?
S/T: Some of it I will be giving you, and some of it will come through another teacher. If we have satisfactorily concluded the questions on my homily, we will get on to other things. Very well then. It is my deep pleasure to bring to you this evening a teacher who is going to instruct you in Cosmogenesis. Prepare yourselves for an experience.
Judith: Silverthistle is gone now. (Voice is completely different than what we have been hearing. Gloria’s demeanor also changed – facial expression – position, etc.) I am Judith. My name is representative of the feminine aspects of praise and prayer. It is my duty as a priestess in the temple of your initiation to teach you of Cosmogenesis. The first book of your bible, the book called Genesis, has the story, but sadly confused. This evening I will attempt to explain some of that mystery to you. It is going to require a coarseness on your part, an open-mindedness, but not to the relinquishment of your analytical mind. The words I shall give you this evening will be poor tools with which to convey to you the ideas I wish to present, but nevertheless, we must try. You must make every effort to understand. If you are going to put forth the effort to be here on a regular basis as you have demonstrated, then we shall not waste your time. So come with me on a voyage of imaginative exploration. Because we are in a finite universe, we do not have words with which to describe infinity. Cosmogenesis is that action which describes the beginning of the universe which you know. But it is removed from your current experience as far or farther than the consciousness of the cell which becomes fertilized and multiplies is from its consciousness of you (as a whole). We must then begin at a beginning, for we cannot begin prior to that. We have not words nor understanding to do so. Two forces come forth at omega points, one centrifugal and the other centripetal. (Editor’s note: We later came to understand this was not meant to be limited to centrifugal and centripetal, but these words were merely given to get us started in our understanding.) Both forces (are) present simultaneously, operating upon matter which is of the body of God for want of a better explanation. (Ed: “body of God” were also words for our understanding. Later this was called “the matrix”) Imagine, if you will, the act of beginning. There is a globule walled in, separated from the body of God – the infinite. Within this globule is an organization of God-Stuff. There is a nucleus, a mesh, if you will, a matrix, but for the sake of a better word, we will say it is comprised of neo-protoplasm. This is in the way of being spirit. Contained within this are the attributes of God intended for manifestation in this particularization of the infinite. These attributes being Life, Quality and Quantity. Now this is not life as you know it in your physical body, but these three divine attributes will be amplified for you in lessons to come. We are speaking of this globule as though it were at rest. But remember my first words spoke of two forces. If you are having difficulty imagining these two forces both at work simultaneously, then I offer you the evidence of your planet that is in constant motion through what you call space. The centrifugal force expands the globe at its equator and the centripetal force depresses the globe at its poles. Beside and attached to this nucleus of spirit mesh containing the God attributes are twin vortices of god-mind: one aspect of god-mind, the creative, and the other aspect of god-mind, the perceiver. Now since we are dealing in “finity” rather than in “infinity”, we cannot do other than speculate what the motivation might be for this creative action. We just know that it is. If you will picture in your mind the Chinese emblem of the yin and the yang, you will recognize two tear drops intertwined, each with a nucleus of opposition within. Thus you have centripetal force within centrifugal force operating upon the matrix of god-spirit containing god-attributes and being directed by two functions of god-mind, or two aspects of god-mind. Now all of this is in motion. It is not at rest. It is a rushing, swirling mass of latent potentiality. Try as best you can to envision the two vortices of mind whirling and whirling and whirling. As the forces work upon the nucleus, the three attributes of god align themselves in such a way that the whirling vortices call the attributes to them for purpose. As these two vortices whirl, they begin to throw out rays. (This is) probably the best imaginative picture you could form for yourself. The nearest available corollary in your earth’s sphere is the aurora borealis. Now as these two vortices whirl, some of the rays begin to touch and form a spindle-like formation, linking the two minds, and the attributes are drawn into the spindle. If a picture were to be drawn, it would appear as a girdle around the equator of this elongation of the rays. Separation begins to occur as centrifugal force throws off rays and centripetal force draws these god-attributes into the center of the whirling vortices of mind. The spirit matrix which had been the carrier of the attributes begins to divide and form a separate nucleus. In accordance with the law of duality which is born with the two-in-one force, each vortex draws from the other, forming two more pair, each pair taking its share of the divine attributes. Thus the original duality has now produced two more dualities. Have you been able to follow this?
Myra: It’s like the cell division.
Judith: It is like your biological mitosis. Those of you who are versed in biology might regard this original divine germ cell as the original isogamete. Now this is not the only individuation of infinity. If we can say that time existed at this omega point, at that point in time many other individuations would also have been made with different forces acting. Other factors of god-mind, other attributes of god are beyond our imagination, thus outside the realm of our study. Now imagine this god-germ-cell dividing and proliferating into innumerable multitudinous cells. As the two forces work together in opposition to each other, there is an energy formed which we shall call tension. In your physical world tension is that quality in consequence of which an electrical charge is caused to discharge itself into the air such as a spark or to take from the greater potential and move into the lesser potential. This action of Cosmogenesis is similar to the behavior of electricity in tension. The ultimate, unlimited, latent potential in the divine germ cell moves from greater potential to lesser potential, and worlds come into being at the behest of the creative mind working with the perceiving mind, always moving toward self- consciousness. Creative mind brings into being, perceiving mind observes, accepts and digests, presenting creative mind with additional material from which to create additional things for perceiving mind to take in. This is occurring in multitudinous action. Thus we give you some idea of the downward spiral, if we can accept direction at this point of the birth of your universe. In later lessons we will become as specific in the birth of worlds and ultimately in the birth of man, and the development of consciousness and its function in the universe. Hopefully (we will) bring you to that point of initiation where you will no longer need to be in your fleshly condition. If you will contemplate on these wonders this should generate in your mind, you will be preparing yourself to understand more at a later time. When you are ready for more from me, I shall return to you. Thank you for having me. I bless you all, and I will now turn you over again to Silverthistle. Good evening.
Good evenings and thank you very much, etc. from the group.
S/T: Well now, what do you think?
Answers: Mind boggling. Very interesting. I hope the recording was going. Julia: It’s very difficult to understand from only an intellectual view. Myra: Trying to imagine centripetal and centrifugal force in opposition is fascinating. Richard: That is what holds the earth together. Myra: Yes. It just hadn’t come into me that way before. Richard: If it weren’t for centripetal force, we’d have been thrown into space long ago. Owen: Another way is – if you have an object on a string and whirl it centrifugal force is the force trying to throw it out, and centripetal force is the force of the string pulling it back in. In the case of the earth and the gravity is the centripetal force pulling in while centrifugal force is pushing out farther to the equator.
S/T: There was a great deal of consideration as to how this lesson should be presented to you. There is much excitement in the temple about the lessons to come, and everyone is eager for you all to be ready for them. I have been very excited myself, and find myself drawn closer to this instrument because of these things that are happening. And now we should perhaps get on with our discussion of karma and reincarnation which seems to be closer to where you and I are at this time.
Myra: I have a question I would like to ask if I may. I was reading that the space ships are bombarding Russia. Is this true?
S/T: If you are talking about extra-terrestrial phenomena, then I would have to answer both yes and no. At this time, I could not explain to you adequately, and rather than leave you confused and perhaps misinformed, I must beg off if you please. I believe Judith is going to go into this as it comes along in the course of her discourses.
Voice: Would you tell us more about Judith?
S/T: Judith is a priestess in the temple of initiation of which this group is a part, and that is why these classes have come into being. There was some amusement expressed at an earlier session when I suggested that a board of directors had made a decision. Perhaps this is the time for us to talk about the temple although you are not completely informed about the conditions in which the temple exists. But there is no reason why you should not have this information as food for thought. Many of the mysteries will become clarified as time goes along. In physical construct, and remember things are physical here too, the walls of the temple are formed by uprightly placed diamond-shaped stone. As these diamond shapes are fitted together there would be the first layer or rise of half diamonds, each touching at a point, forming an eight-sided structure. Then to fill those spaces between the separated points and the adjoining points, would a full diamond with the top half bent over, forming a roof with an opening in the center. Can you visualize this description?
Voices: Yes. A wonderful piece of architecture. What color is it? Does it have windows?
S/T: Any color that you wish to make it…. Not external windows as you have on your houses in the fleshly world because we can see through the stone when we so desire. Now inside the temple as you go through the entryway, there is a corridor that extends clear around the circumference of the building. But the interior walls of the central portion are set at an angle so that if you could take off the front diamond-shaped stone and look straight through the building, the walls would form another diamond shape for you, not enclosed at the top. Within this structure lie several areas that are changeable. In other words, if we need small rooms, we can make them such. If we need large rooms, we can make them such. Dependent upon what the need is, there is room for virtually unlimited numbers of offices. The corridor is by way of an initiatory path. A novitiate is taken into an atrium, and when ready, begins the progression through the corridor. Each of the eight diamond shaped areas is a step in the initiatory process. As the novitiate progresses, he rises in his understanding and rank, if you will. (After) having completed the circle, he is taken to the inner chamber, and is there given the blessing of initiation. The steps of initiation will be more clearly described to you when it is time for you to take them. After you have learned the composition of yourselves, you will remember much that will help you on your pathway, and you will meet the various teachers of the temple. Now as mentioned before, we do have organization here. There is a hierarchy of power, if you wish to look at it that way, but it is rather a hierarchy of knowledge and learning and respect. I use the terms priest and priestess simply to describe a stature or status which has some meaning for you in your current experience. At the top we have our beloved Karansa who might be called High Priestess or a Mother Superior in a Catholic sense. Her responsibilities are great and many, but the gloriousness of her being allows her to bring herself even into groups as small as this because each of you is as important as any other. You, of course, have already had visits from her. Tonight Judith came to speak to you and gave to you the meaning of her name. Names are not essential but they are descriptive of the essence of the beingness of that individuation. We, here, are given the privilege of selecting our own name. My own name is representative of two things: “silver”, which is the coin of your realm and “thistle”, representative of the thorny path that you walk. Since I have chosen the profession of working with incarnate people, I chose that name to best describe my intent and purpose. I understand your curiosity about me, and I have chosen not to reveal much of myself before this time. Inasmuch as the group has now stabilized to that condition in which Karansa feels it is time for your lessons to begin, I am most pleased to answer your questions about myself insofar as it is possible for me to do. What would you have me tell you? (pause) Do not spend too much time on this if you wish to continue with our lessons on karma and reincarnation. But you have as much right to use this time as you wish as I have to use it as I wish.
LaMar: It’s a very minor detail, but do you spell your name with two words – Silver and Thistle – or just a word -- Silverthistle?
S/T: You are correct. It is immaterial. But if you would consider Silver as an adjective to Thistle, you do know that the coin of your realm can be one of the thorniest conditions of your existence.
Myra: One word would do it? Mary S: Is it possible for us to visit you when we are sleeping – going into your dimension?
S/T: You can certainly visit my world, but you might not make direct contact with me individually. It would be determined by commonality of thought and purpose and intent.
Maxine: Silverthistle, you said that you are spirit-physical and that you have substance, are solid. What do you look like?
S/T: If I were to produce a flesh body in conformity with my idea of myself at this time, I would be tall in terms of your current physical development. I would have bronze skin and blue eyes. I have long bony fingers, and very long feet. I am athletic in that I do the equivalent of exercise. My hair would be a very dark brown. Whether short or long would depend upon my orientation at any given time, just as you change yours.
Myra: Do you get haircuts?
S/T: No. If I think of classical topics, you might say my hair is long. If I am interested in something that is fashionable, then my mind creates that which is in accordance with it.
Voice: What name did you have before you decided to change?
S/T: I had several names, but as I explained, the names we take are descriptive of our current intent, and purpose or emotional involvement. At one time, I was called Duke Old Boy. At that time, I was involved in an area of interest somewhat difficult to describe to you, but perhaps somewhat akin to your interest in family genealogy, tracing roots. I have had many names as I moved along my path of development. I use that only as an example. My previous names would not have any particular meaning or even interest for you at this point.
Owen: Do you wear any particular kind of uniform or costume as a priest? Is that what you wear all the time?
S/T : Clothing is again a matter of thought. It would depend upon what I was thinking at any given time, as it would with you. You are not going to wear blue jeans to a black tie function.
Comment: Some people do. Mary S: Do you have a choice of how long you will stay in your present condition?
S/T: I will remain in this condition until my purpose is fulfilled. I have no more idea of my future than you with the exception that I am assured that once I begin something I am given the opportunity to complete it, whereas that is not necessarily true in your condition.
LaMar: In other words, we do not necessarily stay in the physical just until our purpose has been fulfilled?
S/T: Yes, you do. I’m sorry that I misled you. What I meant to convey is that you might start a project such as building a house, or buying a car, or raising a child, or whatever, but when your purpose is fulfilled, and it is time for you to enter the corridor of transition, you will do so whether or not the house is built, or the car is paid for, or the child is grown up. But in my condition, once I have elected to take on a responsibility, I am given the opportunity to follow it through.
Voice: Do some people not follow through? Or something they would choose to do – do they change their mind?
S/T: On this side you mean? Yes, but the penalties are there. If in your condition or experience, you buy a car and promise to pay for it in a given length of time – if you do not fulfill that responsibility, the car is removed from your possession. For instance, if I should elect to abandon this project of your study group, it would be as though that faculty which I am acquiring through this effort would be repossessed, which makes the penalty much more severe than your loss of a car.
Voice: At the completion of a project, do you experience some form of death?
S/T: Not necessarily at the end of a project, but at the fulfillment of the purpose. We have the benefit which you do not always have of knowing when the end is near and thus we are more prepared to go on to the next step. But we do also have to traverse a corridor of transition, a death, if you will, for we do slough off certain things. As your lessons continue in the composition of your world, you will come to understand what it is. But until you are informed of the multifold condition of yourselves and your world, it is too difficult to describe to you in a short time.
Myra: Could you please describe a little more about the corridor of transition? Is this a physical place where the soul enters prior to the physical, or is it after the physical death?
S/T: It is both. Using the words “corridor of transition” is intended to give you some parameters for your imaginative faculty to use. The word “corridor” is intended to convey to you the idea of a narrow directed crossing passage – difficult to describe. But the idea being that there is only one place or means by which this can be accomplished. A likeness to this could be the sky windows through which your projectiles must go to enter outer space.
Myra: Does this happen before you die? Are you entering the corridor before your body dies?
S/T: Yes. That is true, but you are not necessarily conscious of what is happening, particularly if you are very, very, attached to the material world. There are those who are so ready for the transition that it’s like leaping through a doorway into the sunshine.
Voice: Is this corridor what people describe in the near-death experience as a tunnel? .. With a light at the end?
S/T: Yes, and for some it is simply a doorway as if there were no dimension of passing through. It’s simply that at one instant you are on one side and the next instance you are on the other. But for some the tunnel is long, tedious and difficult.
Voice: Would that be people who fight death and keep hanging on?
S/T: That would be one instance in which that would happen – yes. The length of the corridor is determined by consciousness. The nearest thing that you have in your current experience that might be a corollary for this would be if you were taking an anesthetic to go under for surgery. You often experience it as a spiraling down or a going through a tunnel or corridor to the extent that you can resist the anesthetic; the corridor has length and then suddenly it is no longer there.
Richard: Speaking of holding on to the physical… I have this question about the reason we are in the physical to begin with. Are we here as a normal evolution of the human race, or are we, the human race, here because we turned away from god sometime in the past, and are now having to work our way back?
S/T: It seems as though I always have to give you a yes and a no, or say it is both. Again, it is both. As Judith’s lessons on Cosmogenesis proceed, you will come to understand more about the genesis of the planet earth and how man came into being, and what is happening with man with reference to god. I think then that your questions will be answered.
Voice: Will we get our lessons somewhere along the line about man on earth, then?
S/T: I would think so. It has been so in my experience, and as I understand what you might call the course outline, I do believe that Judith intends to cover that material.
Myra: Could you tell us a little bit more about Judith?
S/T: What would you have me tell you except that she is a teacher in the temple of initiation. She is one whom I respect highly and is respected highly by her peers, or she would not have the stature which she enjoys. She has been initiated through many temples, and thus earned her position. She is currently involved in teaching a number of groups such as yours. I would imagine you are interested also in what would be her physical appearance. She is noble of brow. Beautiful, of course. She has an inner light that shines. She is very loving and very interested. You did not have a chance tonight to get to know her very well, but you will as time goes along. Since her subject is complex, and she is so earnest in her effort to teach, she does get wound up in her subject and fails to bring through the personal. You will get to know and love her as I do. She has what you would probably call reddish-colored hair and blue eyes, but a much deeper blue than mine, for she has a deeper understanding of the mental realm than I have. Her skin is fair, almost translucent. Her body is flowing and pliable. Her step is graceful. What else would you have? Her carriage is that of nobility. She walks with pride and confidence.
Myra: Thank you. That is a beautiful description of her. Voice: Silverthistle, could I ask about age? Do people age where you are, or do they choose an age to be in?
S/T: In my condition as you will come to understand, yes, there is age. We are born and we grow up through the stages of development similar to the way you do. We are finite having a certain span of time through which to live which is undetermined by us, but which is made known to us as we approach the end. We do not choose to be 20 at one time, then five at another, although that is possible in certain conditions, but not in the one in which I find myself at this time. The organization of my world is very similar to yours because it is so very close to yours. I am subject to time in a limited degree as you are. There are certain differences here. I don’t know whether we will be able to make them clear to you very soon, but in time your studies will enlighten you in that regard.
Richard: What determines your physical attributes? Hair color, eyes, etc. Is it genetic as ours is?
S/T: Not as yours are. Not through the chromosome, but rather through thought genes. We will have to discuss the process of birth and death in this existence, and that will then clarify some of those kinds of questions.
LaMar: Silverthistle, it is my understanding that we have come back into the flesh in order to work off karma with others. Is that the principal reason for our being here?
S/T: That is not the principal reason that you are here. It is a corollary reason and has validity. As Judith proceeds with her lessons, you will come to understand the meaning of race man and finally the meaning of individual man. I am not prepared to give you that kind of information. It is not that I do not know or have some understanding of that subject because I have already been through that class. But it is for Judith to teach that subject matter.
LaMar: Then we’ll wait patiently. Richard: Or try. LaMar: Several times recently, I have asked question from one source or another. For instance, last session I asked about a good way to get into a good deep meditation, and your answer was “I am that I am”. I keep getting that as an answer. I wonder if you would delve on that phrase a little bit for me.
S/T: Within each of us there is an “I” that supersedes and transcends all else that we know. As you observe yourself and observe your action and you thoughts and your feelings, you come to understand that you are none of those things. In your search for communion with divinity, you must first get into the “I Am”, into pure beingness, into that sense of immortality that is available to your finite mind. It seems from where you sit that mind itself is infinite. It is infinite insofar as it is a part of infinity. But the mind you now operate through and under which control you are is actually finite. You will come to understand more about that as you progress through the studies of the composition of man. But for now, as you are attempting to meditate on the “I am that I am”, someone of your philosophers has said, “I think, therefore I know that I am.” It is for you in meditation to know that “I am that I am” without thought. It is a matter of consciousness. For instance, a very bright person in your flesh came up with the idea of method acting. Perhaps he knew what he was doing and perhaps he did not. I am not in a position to render an opinion. He suggested that when you are going to act the role of a tree, you must in consciousness become a tree. If you are going to fulfill the role of divine man, which is what you are attempting in meditation and communion with god, you must become I AM. Does that help you?
LaMar: Yes, very much. Thank you. Very beautiful and well explained. Mary S: Silverthistle, I’d like to send a message to a very dear friend of mine who made the transition a week and a half ago. Is that possible?
S/T: As I have told you before, I can put it in the exchange.
Mary S: His name is Raymond Hofflinger, and I would like to have him know that we are doing everything we can to help his wife and children.
S/T: I will be most pleased to convey the message. Now it would seem that you have been overfed this evening, so perhaps it would be best if we would draw this evening to a close. I leave you reluctantly because there is so much more to be offered, and I have to keep putting you off. I, too, must practice patience. We are so thrilled and so excited about this class and the caliber of those of you who comprise it. We are all glorified through you and because of you. We love you, and bless you and now I will say goodnight.
Thank you’s, goodnights, etc. Singing of “Let there be peace on earth” while Gloria returns. Cookies and tea served by Myra for some fellowship following the meeting.
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